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From The Guardian, 7/13/08:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/13/barackobama.usa?gusrc=rss
The world is waiting to love America again
Editorial
The Observer,
Barack Obama will arrive in Europe this week to a tumultuous
reception. Europe - and the rest of the world - has watched in awe the
amazing political theatre that has surrounded his bid to be America's
first black President.
Should he win in November Obama's priorities will be domestic ones but
he also has a formidable opportunity to help recast America's
relationship with the world.
It is this relationship which took such a battering during the Bush
presidency as anti-Americanism took root across the globe (though not,
it has to be said, in large parts of Africa where the current American
President did much of his best foreign work).
The euphoria surrounding his presidential bid offers him a brilliant
opportunity to repurpose the relationship between America and the
world.
And all of us would benefit.
Obama's visit will be brief.
He is not scheduled to spend even a night in Britain and, one
suspects, the Middle East stage of his trip will provoke greater
interest in America.
Yet as he flies in he can start the process of rebuilding the American
brand, a brand left in tatters from a series of miscalculations - a
bullying approach to international diplomacy, the shirking of
environmental responsibility, the horrors of Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib
and the CIA's secret rendition programme chief among these.
If Bush seems to represent one stereotype of America (brash,
uncaring), so Obama has come to define another.
He is young - he turns 47 next month.
He is an embodiment of racial diversity.
The Illinois senator has that most desirable of political gifts: he
makes his audience feel better about themselves.
An Obama presidency would certainly make many nations feel better
about American leadership.
He has expressed a willingness to listen more to allies and talk more
to potential foes.
He has taken domestic political fire for saying he would open a
dialogue with Tehran.
But he has also shown a reflex to make hawkish statements.
His mixture of dialogue and firmness would make a refreshing change.
On Iraq, Obama has promised to bring the troops home sooner rather
than later.
In office, sceptics say, practical military considerations may
overcome his instincts.
The advice he is receiving on foreign affairs comes from notably
hawkish Democrats.
Still, it is safe to imagine, Obama will not deepen American
involvement in Iraq, and his utterances so far at least suggest a
refreshing lack of dogmatism.
Elsewhere Obama's role could be hugely beneficial.
As the son of a Kenyan, his voice will carry enormous weight in Africa
in the battle against despotism and for responsible, transparent
government.
On climate change he could provide the leadership that the world
sorely lacks and which Bush singularly failed to deliver.
And what of Britain?
With Obama's election, the notion of a political 'special
relationship' will fade.
It has not been in our interest to maintain the pretence that America
regards us as anything other than simply another partner in Europe.
Free of the ideological baggage of past generations, Obama is likely
to pursue a more honest relationship.
Of course, expectations have risen so high there are bound to be
disappointments should Obama win the November election.
Already there are mutterings on both sides of the Atlantic about his
tacks from left to centre, real or imagined.
For now, though, we should welcome candidate Obama and celebrate his
emergence as such a dynamic force.
Change is the watchword of his candidacy.
And the change in attitude to politics he has inspired, here and in
America, has been astonishing.
___________________________________________________
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama? (Fortunately, |
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http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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For the second straight day, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll shows that the race for the White House is tied.
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John McCain's favorable rating, is now three percent HIGHER at 57%,
than Hussein Obama.
America, is waiting for President McCain.
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On Jul 13, 1:02 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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From The Guardian, 7/13/08:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/13/barackobama.usa?g...
The world is waiting to love America again
Editorial
The Observer,
Barack Obama will arrive in Europe this week to a tumultuous
reception. Europe - and the rest of the world - has watched in awe the
amazing political theatre that has surrounded his bid to be America's
first black President.
Should he win in November Obama's priorities will be domestic ones but
he also has a formidable opportunity to help recast America's
relationship with the world.
It is this relationship which took such a battering during the Bush
presidency as anti-Americanism took root across the globe (though not,
it has to be said, in large parts of Africa where the current American
President did much of his best foreign work).
The euphoria surrounding his presidential bid offers him a brilliant
opportunity to repurpose the relationship between America and the
world.
And all of us would benefit.
Obama's visit will be brief.
He is not scheduled to spend even a night in Britain and, one
suspects, the Middle East stage of his trip will provoke greater
interest in America.
Yet as he flies in he can start the process of rebuilding the American
brand, a brand left in tatters from a series of miscalculations - a
bullying approach to international diplomacy, the shirking of
environmental responsibility, the horrors of Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib
and the CIA's secret rendition programme chief among these.
If Bush seems to represent one stereotype of America (brash,
uncaring), so Obama has come to define another.
He is young - he turns 47 next month.
He is an embodiment of racial diversity.
The Illinois senator has that most desirable of political gifts: he
makes his audience feel better about themselves.
An Obama presidency would certainly make many nations feel better
about American leadership.
He has expressed a willingness to listen more to allies and talk more
to potential foes.
He has taken domestic political fire for saying he would open a
dialogue with Tehran.
But he has also shown a reflex to make hawkish statements.
His mixture of dialogue and firmness would make a refreshing change.
On Iraq, Obama has promised to bring the troops home sooner rather
than later.
In office, sceptics say, practical military considerations may
overcome his instincts.
The advice he is receiving on foreign affairs comes from notably
hawkish Democrats.
Still, it is safe to imagine, Obama will not deepen American
involvement in Iraq, and his utterances so far at least suggest a
refreshing lack of dogmatism.
Elsewhere Obama's role could be hugely beneficial.
As the son of a Kenyan, his voice will carry enormous weight in Africa
in the battle against despotism and for responsible, transparent
government.
On climate change he could provide the leadership that the world
sorely lacks and which Bush singularly failed to deliver.
And what of Britain?
With Obama's election, the notion of a political 'special
relationship' will fade.
It has not been in our interest to maintain the pretence that America
regards us as anything other than simply another partner in Europe.
Free of the ideological baggage of past generations, Obama is likely
to pursue a more honest relationship.
Of course, expectations have risen so high there are bound to be
disappointments should Obama win the November election.
Already there are mutterings on both sides of the Atlantic about his
tacks from left to centre, real or imagined.
For now, though, we should welcome candidate Obama and celebrate his
emergence as such a dynamic force.
Change is the watchword of his candidacy.
And the change in attitude to politics he has inspired, here and in
America, has been astonishing.
___________________________________________________
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On Jul 13, 4:02 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
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From The Guardian, 7/13/08:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/13/barackobama.usa?g...
The world is waiting to love America again
Editorial
The Observer,
Barack Obama will arrive in Europe this week to a tumultuous
reception. Europe - and the rest of the world - has watched in awe the
amazing political theatre that has surrounded his bid to be America's
first black President.
Should he win in November Obama's priorities will be domestic ones but
he also has a formidable opportunity to help recast America's
relationship with the world.
It is this relationship which took such a battering during the Bush
presidency as anti-Americanism took root across the globe (though not,
it has to be said, in large parts of Africa where the current American
President did much of his best foreign work).
The euphoria surrounding his presidential bid offers him a brilliant
opportunity to repurpose the relationship between America and the
world.
And all of us would benefit.
Obama's visit will be brief.
He is not scheduled to spend even a night in Britain and, one
suspects, the Middle East stage of his trip will provoke greater
interest in America.
Yet as he flies in he can start the process of rebuilding the American
brand, a brand left in tatters from a series of miscalculations - a
bullying approach to international diplomacy, the shirking of
environmental responsibility, the horrors of Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib
and the CIA's secret rendition programme chief among these.
If Bush seems to represent one stereotype of America (brash,
uncaring), so Obama has come to define another.
He is young - he turns 47 next month.
He is an embodiment of racial diversity.
The Illinois senator has that most desirable of political gifts: he
makes his audience feel better about themselves.
An Obama presidency would certainly make many nations feel better
about American leadership.
He has expressed a willingness to listen more to allies and talk more
to potential foes.
He has taken domestic political fire for saying he would open a
dialogue with Tehran.
But he has also shown a reflex to make hawkish statements.
His mixture of dialogue and firmness would make a refreshing change.
On Iraq, Obama has promised to bring the troops home sooner rather
than later.
In office, sceptics say, practical military considerations may
overcome his instincts.
The advice he is receiving on foreign affairs comes from notably
hawkish Democrats.
Still, it is safe to imagine, Obama will not deepen American
involvement in Iraq, and his utterances so far at least suggest a
refreshing lack of dogmatism.
Elsewhere Obama's role could be hugely beneficial.
As the son of a Kenyan, his voice will carry enormous weight in Africa
in the battle against despotism and for responsible, transparent
government.
On climate change he could provide the leadership that the world
sorely lacks and which Bush singularly failed to deliver.
And what of Britain?
With Obama's election, the notion of a political 'special
relationship' will fade.
It has not been in our interest to maintain the pretence that America
regards us as anything other than simply another partner in Europe.
Free of the ideological baggage of past generations, Obama is likely
to pursue a more honest relationship.
Of course, expectations have risen so high there are bound to be
disappointments should Obama win the November election.
Already there are mutterings on both sides of the Atlantic about his
tacks from left to centre, real or imagined.
For now, though, we should welcome candidate Obama and celebrate his
emergence as such a dynamic force.
Change is the watchword of his candidacy.
And the change in attitude to politics he has inspired, here and in
America, has been astonishing.
___________________________________________________
Harry
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Nice work Harry, regardless of whether the reader is for Obama or
against Obama. This is the type of analysis that I love. I generally
tell people that I am not particularly concerned about the side or
position taken by someone, as long as it is logically analyzed. You
might my find the following article from my blog interesting.
http://www.theviewfromoutsidemytinywindow.blogspot.com
The Inability of Our Leaders to Please (Lead?) Us
© 2008, The Institute for Applied Common Sense
As simple as we like to make things for comprehension and managerial
purposes, we all recognize the complexities associated with anything
that involves human emotion. Such is the case with respect to those
with whom we at least partially identify, and in whom we place our
hopes.
Politicians are unusual animals. The circumstances surrounding their
ascension to power virtually require that they be something less than
straightforward and transparent. They are the personification of the
Transformers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_%28toy_line
%29) toy line. They simply have far too many different individuals and
groups, not to mention interests, to please, other than their own. As
the old 70’s song indicated, “Everybody wants me to be what they want
me to be.”
Several months ago, this notion was brought home to me while
conducting one of my regular bookstore walk-throughs. Roughly two or
three times a week, I travel to the nearest Border’s or Barnes &
Noble, and aimlessly walk through the various stacks. I came across a
book about Hillary Clinton. It was actually a collection of roughly
thirty articles written by thirty different female writers, about
their perceptions of Senator Clinton, since she was catapulted on the
national scene. As I thumbed through the pages, the thing that struck
me was how virtually every writer did not like something about her,
and suggested that she had failed to perform or behave in the manner
desired by the writer, or the group which the writer felt she
represented. (I conducted a Google Book Search to locate the book,
and could not find it. However, take a look at the number of books
written about her, and just scan the summaries to get a sense of the
tone. (http://books.google.com/books?q=%22hillary+clinton
%22&lr=&sa=N&start=0)
It appears that Senator Obama faces the same dilemma. Certain
segments of the African-American population, which is clearly not
monolithic, have certain expectations of him. Various groups within
the Democratic Party have other expectations. The poor and the
disenfranchised, along with the disillusioned, probably feel that he
represents certain of their interests. The academic, intellectual
types have different thoughts.
That we had two potential Democratic candidates, who would have been
the first within their respective large subsets of our population,
presented all sorts of problems for the voting public. Lots of
folks, including former Clinton supporters, and perhaps even some
moderate Republicans and Independents, now expect Senator Obama to
champion their cause. It will not happen, and it is unrealistic to
expect it to happen. Yet, we keep pressing them, meaning all
politicians, as if they can represent the interests and desires of us
all. John McCain has been criticized for seemingly backing away from
his straight talking, maverick image, into a clone of the current
President. Quite frankly, it would be great if the candidates could
just be themselves. Those of us serving as parents to multiple
children recognize the ridiculousness of such a concept.
What also happens is that when the various groups supporting a
particular candidate have far too many expectations of their
candidate, it opens the door for the opponents of that candidate to
attack another aspect of the candidate’s platform. Every issue
becomes an easy target. Of course, we all realize that all of these
issues do not have equal weight and significance. If somehow, we as
citizens could reduce what we expect out of a candidate to perhaps
five or six primary positions, we might be able to reduce all of this
irrational slicing and dicing that is the political campaign. A
candidate focusing on those five or six primary positions might also
do the voting public a service, in that he or she would remind us to
focus on what is most important, and to avoid sweating the small
stuff.
In the very first article which appeared on this blog, we discussed
this issue in another context. In his overlooked work, The Disuniting
of America, (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n9_v44/
ai_12122328), legendary Harvard historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.
(http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761556940/
Schlesinger_Arthur_Meier_Jr_.html) wrote of how the pursuit of
individual self-interests by special interest groups has lead to
America’s inability to unify its efforts. He wrote of the continuing
disintegration of our society driven by the pursuit of individual
goals, not collective goals. He wrote of how the first Gulf War was
an aberration in terms of recent events which caused us to rally
together, and also resulted in the first President Bush’s 82% approval
rating at the time. Unfortunately, the current war in Iraq has had
the opposite effect. Be that as it may, continuing in the direction
of further dissection of our candidates does not bode well for either
party. Perhaps, that is why an independent, third party may hold the
most promise for America’s future.
© 2008, The Institute for Applied Common Sense
http://www.theviewfromoutsidemytinywindow.blogspot.com |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 3:03 am Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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"Harry Hope" <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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From The Guardian, 7/13/08:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/13/barackobama.usa?gusrc=rss
The world is waiting to love America again
Editorial
The Observer,
Barack Obama will arrive in Europe this week to a tumultuous
reception. Europe - and the rest of the world - has watched in awe the
amazing political theatre that has surrounded his bid to be America's
first black President.
Should he win in November Obama's priorities will be domestic ones but
he also has a formidable opportunity to help recast America's
relationship with the world.
It is this relationship which took such a battering during the Bush
presidency as anti-Americanism took root across the globe (though not,
it has to be said, in large parts of Africa where the current American
President did much of his best foreign work).
The euphoria surrounding his presidential bid offers him a brilliant
opportunity to repurpose the relationship between America and the
world.
And all of us would benefit.
Obama's visit will be brief.
He is not scheduled to spend even a night in Britain and, one
suspects, the Middle East stage of his trip will provoke greater
interest in America.
Yet as he flies in he can start the process of rebuilding the American
brand, a brand left in tatters from a series of miscalculations - a
bullying approach to international diplomacy, the shirking of
environmental responsibility, the horrors of Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib
and the CIA's secret rendition programme chief among these.
If Bush seems to represent one stereotype of America (brash,
uncaring), so Obama has come to define another.
He is young - he turns 47 next month.
He is an embodiment of racial diversity.
The Illinois senator has that most desirable of political gifts: he
makes his audience feel better about themselves.
An Obama presidency would certainly make many nations feel better
about American leadership.
He has expressed a willingness to listen more to allies and talk more
to potential foes.
He has taken domestic political fire for saying he would open a
dialogue with Tehran.
But he has also shown a reflex to make hawkish statements.
His mixture of dialogue and firmness would make a refreshing change.
On Iraq, Obama has promised to bring the troops home sooner rather
than later.
In office, sceptics say, practical military considerations may
overcome his instincts.
The advice he is receiving on foreign affairs comes from notably
hawkish Democrats.
Still, it is safe to imagine, Obama will not deepen American
involvement in Iraq, and his utterances so far at least suggest a
refreshing lack of dogmatism.
Elsewhere Obama's role could be hugely beneficial.
As the son of a Kenyan, his voice will carry enormous weight in Africa
in the battle against despotism and for responsible, transparent
government.
On climate change he could provide the leadership that the world
sorely lacks and which Bush singularly failed to deliver.
And what of Britain?
With Obama's election, the notion of a political 'special
relationship' will fade.
It has not been in our interest to maintain the pretence that America
regards us as anything other than simply another partner in Europe.
Free of the ideological baggage of past generations, Obama is likely
to pursue a more honest relationship.
Of course, expectations have risen so high there are bound to be
disappointments should Obama win the November election.
Already there are mutterings on both sides of the Atlantic about his
tacks from left to centre, real or imagined.
For now, though, we should welcome candidate Obama and celebrate his
emergence as such a dynamic force.
Change is the watchword of his candidacy.
And the change in attitude to politics he has inspired, here and in
America, has been astonishing.
___________________________________________________
Harry
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com>
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The world is waiting for a weaker America.
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More than Bush has weakened it? It can't happen. The dollar shows what
Bush has done to America.
Militarily we're overstretched and worn out. Economically we're in a
shambles. Fiscally we're essentially bankrupt.
And you cheer and try to sell fear to keep us from cleaning the
incompetent and corrupt out?
Don't make me laugh. 9 out of 10 people are too smart to fall for such
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:25 am Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com
wrote:
The world is waiting for a weaker America.
More than Bush has weakened it? It can't happen. The dollar shows what
Bush has done to America.
Militarily we're overstretched and worn out. Economically we're in a
shambles. Fiscally we're essentially bankrupt.
And you cheer and try to sell fear to keep us from cleaning the
incompetent and corrupt out?
Don't make me laugh. 9 out of 10 people are too smart to fall for such
stupidity.
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Now, now, give him a break; depending on who's doing the polling, between
2.3 and 3.2 out of 10 are still buying the fearmongering propaganda. |
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Barak Insane Obama
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama? (Fortunately, |
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Lets pray this lying anti-American scumbag doesnt become the worlds
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geno4321
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama? (Fortunately, |
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Liar liar on the wall.
Your next president is Orbama so stat preparing for the neo-Fascist
Rep[iblicans to be cconvicted for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
"SURRENDER = CHANGE" <progressive_libertarian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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For the second straight day, the Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential
Tracking Poll shows that the race for the White House is tied.
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John McCain's favorable rating, is now three percent HIGHER at 57%,
than Hussein Obama.
America, is waiting for President McCain.
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On Jul 13, 1:02 pm, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
| Quote: |
From The Guardian,
7/13/08:http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/13/barackobama.usa?g...
The world is waiting to love America again
Editorial
The Observer,
Barack Obama will arrive in Europe this week to a tumultuous
reception. Europe - and the rest of the world - has watched in awe the
amazing political theatre that has surrounded his bid to be America's
first black President.
Should he win in November Obama's priorities will be domestic ones but
he also has a formidable opportunity to help recast America's
relationship with the world.
It is this relationship which took such a battering during the Bush
presidency as anti-Americanism took root across the globe (though not,
it has to be said, in large parts of Africa where the current American
President did much of his best foreign work).
The euphoria surrounding his presidential bid offers him a brilliant
opportunity to repurpose the relationship between America and the
world.
And all of us would benefit.
Obama's visit will be brief.
He is not scheduled to spend even a night in Britain and, one
suspects, the Middle East stage of his trip will provoke greater
interest in America.
Yet as he flies in he can start the process of rebuilding the American
brand, a brand left in tatters from a series of miscalculations - a
bullying approach to international diplomacy, the shirking of
environmental responsibility, the horrors of Guantanamo, Abu Ghraib
and the CIA's secret rendition programme chief among these.
If Bush seems to represent one stereotype of America (brash,
uncaring), so Obama has come to define another.
He is young - he turns 47 next month.
He is an embodiment of racial diversity.
The Illinois senator has that most desirable of political gifts: he
makes his audience feel better about themselves.
An Obama presidency would certainly make many nations feel better
about American leadership.
He has expressed a willingness to listen more to allies and talk more
to potential foes.
He has taken domestic political fire for saying he would open a
dialogue with Tehran.
But he has also shown a reflex to make hawkish statements.
His mixture of dialogue and firmness would make a refreshing change.
On Iraq, Obama has promised to bring the troops home sooner rather
than later.
In office, sceptics say, practical military considerations may
overcome his instincts.
The advice he is receiving on foreign affairs comes from notably
hawkish Democrats.
Still, it is safe to imagine, Obama will not deepen American
involvement in Iraq, and his utterances so far at least suggest a
refreshing lack of dogmatism.
Elsewhere Obama's role could be hugely beneficial.
As the son of a Kenyan, his voice will carry enormous weight in Africa
in the battle against despotism and for responsible, transparent
government.
On climate change he could provide the leadership that the world
sorely lacks and which Bush singularly failed to deliver.
And what of Britain?
With Obama's election, the notion of a political 'special
relationship' will fade.
It has not been in our interest to maintain the pretence that America
regards us as anything other than simply another partner in Europe.
Free of the ideological baggage of past generations, Obama is likely
to pursue a more honest relationship.
Of course, expectations have risen so high there are bound to be
disappointments should Obama win the November election.
Already there are mutterings on both sides of the Atlantic about his
tacks from left to centre, real or imagined.
For now, though, we should welcome candidate Obama and celebrate his
emergence as such a dynamic force.
Change is the watchword of his candidacy.
And the change in attitude to politics he has inspired, here and in
America, has been astonishing.
___________________________________________________
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com
wrote:
The world is waiting for a weaker America.
More than Bush has weakened it? It can't happen. The dollar shows what
Bush has done to America.
Militarily we're overstretched and worn out. Economically we're in a
shambles. Fiscally we're essentially bankrupt.
And you cheer and try to sell fear to keep us from cleaning the
incompetent and corrupt out?
Don't make me laugh. 9 out of 10 people are too smart to fall for such
stupidity.
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None of the above. Clearly, Obama has said he wants to surrender in Iraq
and "negoiate" with despots in Iran and Palestine. This will make for a
weaker America. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 16:02:49 -0400, Harry Hope <rivrvu@ix.netcom.com>
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:13:47 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com
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The world is waiting for a weaker America.
More than Bush has weakened it?
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The opinion of a Socialist is irrelevant.
On Tue, 27 May 2008 09:09:36 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
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That's what they don't understand. Redistribution makes us all safer.
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Thanks for outting yourself as a Socialist cunt. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 10:47:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com>
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Clearly, Obama has said he wants to surrender in Iraq
and "negoiate" with despots in Iran and Palestine. This will make for a
weaker America.
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No clearly about it. The only thing "clear" from your statement is you
are a coward and a liar. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:10 am Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:23:11 -0400, Patriot Games <Patriot@America.Com>
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:13:47 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com
wrote:
The world is waiting for a weaker America.
More than Bush has weakened it?
The opinion of a Socialist is irrelevant.
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And you think the opinion of a bigoted Nazi wannabe clueless lsuer net.kook
is? Um, no...
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 09:09:36 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
That's what they don't understand. Redistribution makes us all safer.
Thanks for outting yourself as a Socialist cunt.
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Thanks for outing yourself as a raving Nazi net.kook.
So, how's the vote over in AUK going? Best of luck! Either way, no doubt
it's an honor for you simply to have been nominated...
<snicker>
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The Metterling List
List No. 5
6 undershirts
6 shorts
6 handkerchiefs
has always puzzled scholars, principally because of the total absence of socks.
-The Collected Laundry Lists of Hans Metterling, Vol. I, 437 pp., plus xxxii-page introduction; indexed; $18.75,
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| Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:10:12 -0500, Hans Metterling
<hans.metterling@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:23:11 -0400, Patriot Games <Patriot@America.Com
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:13:47 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com
wrote:
The world is waiting for a weaker America.
More than Bush has weakened it?
The opinion of a Socialist is irrelevant.
On Tue, 27 May 2008 09:09:36 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
That's what they don't understand. Redistribution makes us all safer.
Thanks for outting yourself as a Socialist cunt.
Thanks for outing yourself as a raving Nazi net.kook.
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We know who the REAL Nazis are.
Who oppressed Jewish religious freedom in Germany? Nazis.
Who oppressed Christian religious freedom in America? Democrats.
Who consolidated all state security organizations in Germany? Nazis.
Who consolidated all state security organizations in America?
Democrats.
Who confiscated firearms in Germany? Nazis.
Who confiscated firearms in America? Democrats.
Who banned firearms in Germany? Nazis.
Who banned firearms in America? Democrats.
Who wants to ban firearms in America, again? Democrats.
Now we know who the REAL Nazis are.
Democrats = Nazis.
Remember that next time you vote. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:33 am Post subject: Re: The world is waiting for President Obama |
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:44:37 -0400, Patriot Games <Patriot@America.Com>
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On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:10:12 -0500, Hans Metterling
hans.metterling@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:23:11 -0400, Patriot Games <Patriot@America.Com
wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:13:47 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:03:13 -0500, "Taylor" <taylor@nospam2me.com
wrote:
The world is waiting for a weaker America.
More than Bush has weakened it?
The opinion of a Socialist is irrelevant.
On Tue, 27 May 2008 09:09:36 -0700, retrogrouch@comcast.net wrote:
That's what they don't understand. Redistribution makes us all safer.
Thanks for outting yourself as a Socialist cunt.
Thanks for outing yourself as a raving Nazi net.kook.
We know who the REAL Nazis are.
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And who do you imagine comprises this "we" of which you speak, kook? Are you
laboring under the illusion that there's ANYONE who wishes to be a part of
any "we" that includes you?
Or are you hearing voices again?
Yes, kook, *we* all know YOU are a Nazi. Well, more of a Nazi wannabe,
but...
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The Metterling List
List No. 5
6 undershirts
6 shorts
6 handkerchiefs
has always puzzled scholars, principally because of the total absence of socks.
-The Collected Laundry Lists of Hans Metterling, Vol. I, 437 pp., plus xxxii-page introduction; indexed; $18.75,
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