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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
In a 588-page federal notice, the Environmental Protection Agency made
no finding on whether global warming poses a threat to people's health
or welfare, reversing an earlier conclusion at the insistence of the
White House and officially kicking any decision on a solution to the
next president and Congress.
The White House on Thursday rejected the EPA's suggestion three weeks
earlier that the 1970 Clean Air Act can be both workable and effective
for addressing global climate change. The EPA said Friday that law is
"ill-suited" for dealing with global warming.
"If our nation is truly serious about regulating greenhouse gases, the
Clean Air Act is the wrong tool for the job," EPA Administrator
Stephen Johnson told reporters. "It is really at the feet of
Congress."
White House press secretary Dana Perino said that President Bush is
committed to further reductions but that there is a "right way and a
wrong way to deal with climate change."
The wrong way is "to sharply increase gasoline prices, home heating
bills and the cost of energy for American businesses," she said. "The
right way, as the president has proposed, is to invest in new
technologies."
At the just concluded G-8 summit at Toyako, Japan, Bush and other
world leaders called for a voluntary 50 percent reduction in
greenhouse gases worldwide by 2050 but offered no specifics on how to
do it.
In a setback for Bush, the Supreme Court ruled last year that the
government had the authority under the Clean Air Act to regulate
greenhouse gases as a pollutant. Bush has consistently opposed doing
that.
Congress hasn't found the will to do much about the problem either.
Supporters of regulating greenhouse gases could get only 48 votes in
the 100-member Senate last month. The House has held several hearings
on the problem but no votes on any bill addressing it. Both major
presidential candidates, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack
Obama, have endorsed variations of the approach rejected by the
Senate.
In its voluminous document, the EPA laid out a buffet of options on
how to reduce greenhouse gases from cars, ships, trains, power plants,
factories and refineries. On Friday, Johnson called the proposals
drafted by his staff as "putting a square peg into a round hole" and
he said moving forward would be irresponsible.
"One point is clear: The potential regulation of greenhouse gases
under any portion of the Clean Air Act could result in unprecedented
expansion of EPA authority that would have a profound effect on
virtually every sector of the economy and touch every household in the
land," Johnson wrote in the document's preface Friday.
Attorneys general from several states called the administration's
findings inadequate.
"While we appreciate the effort that EPA staff made in putting
together today's documents, the time has long passed for open-ended
pondering - what we need now is action," said Attorney General Martha
Coakley of Massachusetts, which initiated the Supreme Court case.
The EPA said it had encountered resistance from the Agriculture,
Commerce, Energy and Transportation departments, as well as the White
House, that made it "impossible" to respond in a timely fashion to the
Supreme Court decision.
"Our agencies have serious concerns with this suggestion because it
does not fairly recognize the enormous - and, we believe,
insurmountable - burdens, difficulties, and costs, and likely limited
benefits, of using the Clean Air Act" to regulate greenhouse gas
emissions, the secretaries of the four agencies wrote to the White
House on Wednesday.
Discussing the benefits from reducing greenhouse gases, the EPA said
doing nothing more than increasing fuel efficiency standards under
last year's energy bill will reduce the harmful effects of global
warming by $340 billion to $830 billion over the next three decades.
In a May draft of Friday's notice, the EPA had put the benefits to
society of further reducing greenhouse gases at $2 trillion.
Friday's action caps months of often tense negotiations between EPA
scientists and the White House over how to address global warming
under the major federal air pollution law. It ended with the White
House and other agencies citing "extraordinary circumstances" and
refusing to review the draft forwarded in June by EPA scientists.
The document released Friday is much more cautious than a
determination made in December by the agency that found greenhouse
gases endangered welfare, and it also appears to counteract findings
of drafts released in May and June that found the Clean Air Act could
be an effective tool for reducing greenhouse gases.
"EPA's approach to this has been completely thrown out by the White
House, which is only attempting to stall any kind of cleanup," said
Frank O'Donnell," president of Clean Air Watch, an environmental
advocacy group. "It sounds like the Bush administration is trying to
ignore the Supreme Court and to pretend it doesn't exist."
Rep. Edward Markey, chairman of the House Select Committee on Global
Warming, called the administration's findings "the bureaucratic
equivalent of saying that the dog ate your homework."
"The White House has taken an earnest attempt by their own climate
experts to respond to the Supreme Court's mandate to address global
warming pollution and turned it into a Frankenstein's monster," said
Markey, D-Mass.
Industry groups still expressed concern Friday over some of the
suggestions included in the document, which will be the basis for a
future action rule under a new president more inclined to take tougher
action to address global warming.
"Our point on this is that EPA has set forth a road map which
literally throws the entire way which we manage the environment and
economy in complete turmoil," said Bill Kovacs, vice president of the
Environment, Technology and Regulatory Affairs Division at the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce.
On the Net:
EPA Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking: http://www.epa.gov/epahome/pdf/anpr20080711.pdf
EPA Fact Sheet: http://www.epa.gov/epahome/anprfs.htm |
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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On Jul 13, 12:12 pm, MikeM <MichaelML...@vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
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White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
In a 588-page federal notice, the Environmental Protection Agency made
no finding on whether global warming poses a threat to people's health
or welfare, reversing an earlier conclusion at the insistence of the
White House and officially kicking any decision on a solution to the
next president and Congress.
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GOOD! Biofuel has already been the thin, evil wedge of this insane
push for C02 production reductions, fighting a "monster" that is all
myth. We don't need any more efforts to SHIFT jobs and production to
the East and usher in the kind of inflation we saw in the 1970s. |
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Peter Muehlbauer Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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MikeM <MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
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White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
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And with that not only U.S. economy, but also all dependencies.
Good Bush! |
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Server 13 Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
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MikeM <MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
And with that not only U.S. economy, but also all dependencies.
Good Bush!
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Nope, he's just lying as per usual. |
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Server 13 Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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$27 TRILLION to pay for Kyoto wrote:
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On Jul 13, 12:12 pm, MikeM <MichaelML...@vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
In a 588-page federal notice, the Environmental Protection Agency made
no finding on whether global warming poses a threat to people's health
or welfare, reversing an earlier conclusion at the insistence of the
White House and officially kicking any decision on a solution to the
next president and Congress.
GOOD! Biofuel has already been the thin, evil wedge of this insane
push for C02 production reductions, fighting a "monster" that is all
myth. We don't need any more efforts to SHIFT jobs and production to
the East and usher in the kind of inflation we saw in the 1970s.
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More ridiculous denialist lies. |
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Lord Gow333, Conservative Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:31 am Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:g5dds7$37m$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
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Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
MikeM <MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
And with that not only U.S. economy, but also all dependencies.
Good Bush!
Nope, he's just lying as per usual.
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Well lookie here, Boys... we got us a shithead! Did you purchase enough
carbon credits to offset the energy used in posting that mind boggling
comeback there, Shithead?
LG
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If you wonder how it came to be generally acknowledged "fact," accepted by
all men of good will, that Joe McCarthy was a monster, that Alger Hiss was
innocent, that mankind is causing global warming and that we're losing the
war in Iraq, try watching the rewriting of history nightly on MSNBC. - Ann
Coulter |
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Lloyd Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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On Jul 14, 11:05 am, John Black <jbl...@texas.net> wrote:
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In article <6ebc496b-d5e4-4265-950d-123703babad4
@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, MichaelML...@vzw.blackberry.net says...
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
Thank God Bush is still there blocking some of this stuff. I'm
disappointed that he allowed the lunatics in congress to outlaw Edison's
lightbulb though.
John Black
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Bet you still believe in Iraqi WMD too! |
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Ouroboros_Rex Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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Lord Gow333, Conservative Fullback! wrote:
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"Server 13" <c-bee1@uiuc.edu> wrote in message
news:g5dds7$37m$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu...
Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
MikeM <MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net> wrote:
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the
greenhouse gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would
cripple the U.S. economy.
And with that not only U.S. economy, but also all dependencies.
Good Bush!
Nope, he's just lying as per usual.
Well lookie here, Boys... we got us a shithead! Did you purchase
enough carbon credits to offset the energy used in posting that mind
boggling comeback there, Shithead?
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Got nothing, I see. Why did you bother? |
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John Black Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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In article <6ebc496b-d5e4-4265-950d-123703babad4
@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net says...
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White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
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Thank God Bush is still there blocking some of this stuff. I'm
disappointed that he allowed the lunatics in congress to outlaw Edison's
lightbulb though.
John Black |
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kT Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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John Black wrote:
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In article <6ebc496b-d5e4-4265-950d-123703babad4
@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net says...
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
Thank God Bush is still there blocking some of this stuff. I'm
disappointed that he allowed the lunatics in congress to outlaw Edison's
lightbulb though.
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I think we should bring back the vacuum tube radio and computer as well. |
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Ouroboros_Rex Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:58 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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John Black wrote:
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In article <6ebc496b-d5e4-4265-950d-123703babad4
@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net
says...
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the
greenhouse gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would
cripple the U.S. economy.
Thank God Bush is still there blocking some of this stuff.
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I agree fully. A government based on wall-to-wall lies can be nothing but
good for us. lol |
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Peter Muehlbauer Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
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In article <6ebc496b-d5e4-4265-950d-123703babad4
@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net says...
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
Thank God Bush is still there blocking some of this stuff. I'm
disappointed that he allowed the lunatics in congress to outlaw Edison's
lightbulb though.
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Don't worry. Now you have Os..Obama, the peace priest.
Thank god, Bush is still here, because this turncoat Obama will ruin U.S.
Sending another contingent of 10.000 GIs to Afghanistan is only the
beginneing.
Funding climate science by billions of $US in times of bank crashes, is the
other coup.
What makes him *better* than Bush? |
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Ouroboros_Rex Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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Peter Muehlbauer wrote:
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John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
In article <6ebc496b-d5e4-4265-950d-123703babad4
@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net
says...
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the
greenhouse gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would
cripple the U.S. economy.
Thank God Bush is still there blocking some of this stuff. I'm
disappointed that he allowed the lunatics in congress to outlaw
Edison's lightbulb though.
Don't worry. Now you have Os..Obama, the peace priest.
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Who's 'we', kemosabe?
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Thank god, Bush is still here, because this turncoat Obama
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k00k-a-d00dle-d000!
will ruin
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U.S. Sending another contingent of 10.000 GIs to Afghanistan is only
the beginneing.
Funding climate science by billions of $US in times of bank crashes,
is the other coup.
What makes him *better* than Bush?
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He doesn't lie every time he opens his mouth? |
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Whata Fool Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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John Black <jblack@texas.net> wrote:
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In article <6ebc496b-d5e4-4265-950d-123703babad4
@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, MichaelMLGPR@vzw.blackberry.net says...
White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases
By DINA CAPPIELLO,
AP
Posted: 2008-07-11 23:28:47
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration, dismissing the
recommendations of its top experts, rejected regulating the greenhouse
gases blamed for global warming Friday, saying it would cripple the
U.S. economy.
Thank God Bush is still there blocking some of this stuff. I'm
disappointed that he allowed the lunatics in congress to outlaw Edison's
lightbulb though.
John Black
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Don't worry about it, GE probably told him it was ok, the law
is less restrictive than the clueless media reported, all it says is
that bulbs must use at least 30 percent less power for the same light,
and GE has technology to make an incandescent that uses 50 percent less,
in fact, they might have helped with the law language. :-)
http://www.theenvironmentsite.org/forum/energy-conservation/7439-ge-announces-high-efficiency-incandescent-light-bulbs.html |
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Whata Fool Guest
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 12:38 am Post subject: Re: White House rejects regulating greenhouse gases |
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"Ouroboros_Rex" <its@casual.com> wrote:
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...... A government based on wall-to-wall lies can be nothing but
good for us. lol
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You don't have to say it, we knew all along that is exactly
what you and the other socialist nuts (and the commie) are working
toward, but the goal posts are being moved faster than your rickshaw. |
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