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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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Newsweek is perplexed:
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/145737
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Glow Fading?
... But perhaps most puzzling is how McCain could have gained traction in the past month.
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LOL.
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Perhaps Newsweek accidentally forgot to 0ver-sample democrats by 20%,
this month?...
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The interesting issue is that Obama SHOULD be ahead by 15 points right
now. He's been getting non-stop good press - and people aren't paying
very close attention to the guy. What happens to him when the
American people actually find out just how anti-American he is. |
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Chris Darwin
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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bvallely@aol.com wrote:
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Newsweek is perplexed:
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/145737
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Glow Fading?
... But perhaps most puzzling is how McCain could have gained traction in the past month.
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LOL.
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Perhaps Newsweek accidentally forgot to 0ver-sample democrats by 20%,
this month?...
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The interesting issue is that Obama SHOULD be ahead by 15 points right
now. He's been getting non-stop good press - and people aren't paying
very close attention to the guy. What happens to him when the
American people actually find out just how anti-American he is.
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Well considering McLame is getting more favorable coverage, after all he
is the corporate candidate, it's no surprise Obama is only ahead by 4.2
pts. in an average of all major national polls.
http://tinyurl.com/3x2w8a
You guys should stop taking Drudge's word as the truth. Try reading the
article, it says Obama has a 293 to 227 lead over McLame in the
electoral vote, which is all that matters. Funny how Sludge doesn't
mention that on his front page. |
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CB
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:45 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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"Chris Darwin" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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bvallely@aol.com wrote:
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Newsweek is perplexed:
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/145737
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Glow Fading?
... But perhaps most puzzling is how McCain could have gained traction
in the past month.
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LOL.
.
Perhaps Newsweek accidentally forgot to 0ver-sample democrats by 20%,
this month?...
.
The interesting issue is that Obama SHOULD be ahead by 15 points right
now. He's been getting non-stop good press - and people aren't paying
very close attention to the guy. What happens to him when the
American people actually find out just how anti-American he is.
Well considering McLame is getting more favorable coverage, after all he
is the corporate candidate, it's no surprise Obama is only ahead by 4.2
pts. in an average of all major national polls.
http://tinyurl.com/3x2w8a
You guys should stop taking Drudge's word as the truth. Try reading the
article, it says Obama has a 293 to 227 lead over McLame in the electoral
vote, which is all that matters. Funny how Sludge doesn't mention that on
his front page.
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O'Boobuh is the losers candidate. Most of his supporters come from high
school drop outs, illegals and the easily fooled |
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znuybv
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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On Jul 12, 6:40 pm, "bvall...@aol.com" <bvall...@aol.com> wrote:
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.> Newsweek is perplexed:
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/145737
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Glow Fading?
... But perhaps most puzzling is how McCain could have gained traction in the past month.
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LOL.
.
Perhaps Newsweek accidentally forgot to 0ver-sample democrats by 20%,
this month?...
.
The interesting issue is that Obama SHOULD be ahead by 15 points right
now. He's been getting non-stop good press - and people aren't paying
very close attention to the guy. What happens to him when the
American people actually find out just how anti-American he is.
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I don't put much stock in polls. Even when they reflect what I
favor. I tend to think that this election will be a referendum on
Obama. If the American people begin to see him as I do; he will go
down in flames. He is trying his best to hide his liberalism and
inherent anti-Americanism. |
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znuybv
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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On Jul 13, 7:35 am, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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CB wrote:
O'Boobuh is the losers candidate. Most of his supporters come from high
school drop outs, illegals and the easily fooled
Bush lied about WMD and right wing nuts still supported him. Obama said
he was for change but then voted for the status quo and we're walking
away from him. Is it really that hard for right wing nuts to understand
that we hold the people we support to a standard higher than failure?
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"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons |
programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is
doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-
range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and
others, Dec, 5, 2001.
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible
to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as
Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course
to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have
alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years,
every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and
destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if
left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity
to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to
develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He
is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He
presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently
prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his
consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of
Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
NOW THE DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE NEVER WERE ANY
WMD'S AND HE TOOK US TO WAR FOR HIS OIL BUDDIES??? Right!!! |
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znuybv
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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On Jul 13, 9:40 am, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:
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CB wrote:
Failure is a personal thing which government has little influence.
If I 'were' to fail I wouldn't look for a scapegoat, I be looking within.
The very reason Dim Libs look to gubment to be their mammy 'is' to avoid
responsibility for their own actions. After all, it's Bush's fault, right?
Obama has failed to live up to his rhetoric. It's similar to Reagan
saying he'd balance the budget and then doing the exact opposite (which
is what he did). Conservative didn't care that Reagan failed and they
didn't care that he lied...all they cared about was that he won
reelection). They didn't care that Bush failed either until it started
to drag down their entire party. Now they care.
On the other hand liberals deplore failure. Obama says one thing and
does the opposite. He's a typical politician, not a man of change.
The polls tell us that huge majorities of American liberals,
conservatives and independents opposed giving telecoms immunity. So
what does the government of, by and for the people do? It ignores our
will and gives them immunity.
I'm ashamed that I supported Obama. Are you ashamed that you supported
Bush? After all if Bush hadn't committed crimes it wouldn't have been
necessary for him to ask for telecom immunity.
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I can understand your being ashamed of supporting Obama. I , for one, |
am proud to be a supporter of GWB. He has done some things that I
disagree with but in the main he was a good President.
You should remember, 63,000,000 people voted for him. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember the |
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SURRENDER = CHANGE wrote:
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http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
The race for the White House is tied.
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Newsweek is perplexed:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/145737
Glow Fading?
... But perhaps most puzzling is how McCain could have gained traction in the past month.
LOL.
Perhaps Newsweek accidentally forgot to 0ver-sample democrats by 20%,
this month?...
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Intelligent people are walking away from Obama because he's just voted
to give the government more power to conduct illegal wiretapping and he
voted to give telecoms immunity. Giving criminals immunity is what
republicans do. Nixon wanted it. Reagan's men needed it. Bush 41
pardoned Reagan's men. Bush 43 needed both pardons and immunity to
coverup his crimes.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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bvallely@aol.com wrote:
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The interesting issue is that Obama SHOULD be ahead by 15 points right
now. He's been getting non-stop good press - and people aren't paying
very close attention to the guy. What happens to him when the
American people actually find out just how anti-American he is.
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Republicans will flock to his side when they learn he hates the
Constitution as much as they do.
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Impeach Bush
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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CB wrote:
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O'Boobuh is the losers candidate. Most of his supporters come from high
school drop outs, illegals and the easily fooled
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Bush lied about WMD and right wing nuts still supported him. Obama said
he was for change but then voted for the status quo and we're walking
away from him. Is it really that hard for right wing nuts to understand
that we hold the people we support to a standard higher than failure?
--
Impeach Bush
http://zzpat.tripod.com/cvb/
Impeach Search Engine:
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012146513885108216046:rzesyut3kmm |
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CB
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:06 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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"zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
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CB wrote:
O'Boobuh is the losers candidate. Most of his supporters come from high
school drop outs, illegals and the easily fooled
Bush lied about WMD and right wing nuts still supported him. Obama said he
was for change but then voted for the status quo and we're walking away
from him. Is it really that hard for right wing nuts to understand that we
hold the people we support to a standard higher than failure?
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Failure is a personal thing which government has little influence.
If I 'were' to fail I wouldn't look for a scapegoat, I be looking within.
The very reason Dim Libs look to gubment to be their mammy 'is' to avoid
responsibility for their own actions. After all, it's Bush's fault, right?
O'boobuh, the losers candidate.
CB
"As government expands, Liberty contracts"
-- Ronald Reagan
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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CB wrote:
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Failure is a personal thing which government has little influence.
If I 'were' to fail I wouldn't look for a scapegoat, I be looking within.
The very reason Dim Libs look to gubment to be their mammy 'is' to avoid
responsibility for their own actions. After all, it's Bush's fault, right?
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Obama has failed to live up to his rhetoric. It's similar to Reagan
saying he'd balance the budget and then doing the exact opposite (which
is what he did). Conservative didn't care that Reagan failed and they
didn't care that he lied...all they cared about was that he won
reelection). They didn't care that Bush failed either until it started
to drag down their entire party. Now they care.
On the other hand liberals deplore failure. Obama says one thing and
does the opposite. He's a typical politician, not a man of change.
The polls tell us that huge majorities of American liberals,
conservatives and independents opposed giving telecoms immunity. So
what does the government of, by and for the people do? It ignores our
will and gives them immunity.
I'm ashamed that I supported Obama. Are you ashamed that you supported
Bush? After all if Bush hadn't committed crimes it wouldn't have been
necessary for him to ask for telecom immunity.
--
Impeach Bush
http://zzpat.tripod.com/cvb/
Impeach Search Engine:
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CB
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:43 pm Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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"zzpat" <zzpatrick@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:g5db6b01bfm@enews4.newsguy.com...
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CB wrote:
Failure is a personal thing which government has little influence.
If I 'were' to fail I wouldn't look for a scapegoat, I be looking within.
The very reason Dim Libs look to gubment to be their mammy 'is' to avoid
responsibility for their own actions. After all, it's Bush's fault,
right?
Obama has failed to live up to his rhetoric. It's similar to Reagan saying
he'd balance the budget and then doing the exact opposite (which is what
he did). Conservative didn't care that Reagan failed and they didn't care
that he lied...all they cared about was that he won reelection). They
didn't care that Bush failed either until it started to drag down their
entire party. Now they care.
On the other hand liberals deplore failure. Obama says one thing and does
the opposite. He's a typical politician, not a man of change.
The polls tell us that huge majorities of American liberals, conservatives
and independents opposed giving telecoms immunity. So what does the
government of, by and for the people do? It ignores our will and gives
them immunity.
I'm ashamed that I supported Obama. Are you ashamed that you supported
Bush?
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I'm not ahamed to have supported President Bush. I am how ever dissipointed
in his inability to communicate to the people why he does things.
It would help if the media covered his weekly radio address on PBS and on
CSPAN or even BET or MTV. Is it to much to expect?
After all if Bush hadn't committed crimes it wouldn't have been
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Telecom immunity is to protect from law suits by people who are under
investigation by the Feds. The telecoms provide the info only, it's up to
the Feds to make the case based on account information turned over to them.
Why should telecoms he heald responsible for what the Feds do?
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:52 am Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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znuybv wrote:
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I can understand your being ashamed of supporting Obama. I , for one,
am proud to be a supporter of GWB. He has done some things that I
disagree with but in the main he was a good President.
You should remember, 63,000,000 people voted for him.
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A friend of mine gave me a t-shirt with a headline run by the Daily
Mirror in the UK that reads "How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?
I know I didn't vote for that idiot so it must be referring to people
like you. Shame on you. I'd put money on it that you listen to Limbaugh
and/or FOX Opinion (and you think you're informed).
Polls consistently tell us that FOX viewers believe things that are not
true. In fact one poll said 80% of FOX viewers believed something about
the war that was known to be not true when the war started. Was that by
mistake or did they intentionally lie to dumb people?
--
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:02 am Post subject: Re: RASMUSSEN: IT'S NOW A TIE! Newsweek poll (remember them? |
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CB wrote:
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Telecom immunity is to protect from law suits by people who are under
investigation by the Feds. The telecoms provide the info only, it's up to
the Feds to make the case based on account information turned over to them.
Why should telecoms he heald responsible for what the Feds do?
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Because the Federal government asked the telecoms to break the law -
specifically the Fourth Amendment.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,
supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place
to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The telecoms are not above the law. Bush is not above the law and the
Congress can't rewrite the Constitution so it gives Bush powers we
haven't given him.
SCOTUS will strike it down as being unconstitutional but it'll take
years. By then any civil cases won't have any standing because
documents are being destroyed as we talk.
Criminal violations are still allowed...but how can a person know if a
crime was committed against them if they're denied access to the records
because they were given immunity?
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