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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qual Reply with quote

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience

c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"

d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments

(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

---

Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it. McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 11:40 am, Bert Hyman <b...@iphouse.com> wrote:
Quote:
1...@net.com (baxter) wrote innews:WA1ak.252247$ng7.110629@en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com:

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified

Fascinating.

First, some yahoos tried to make military service a qualification for
the presidency.

Next, the ante was raised to actually seeing combat while in military
service.

Now, it looks like the bozos are claiming that unless you were a
theater commander, you're not qualified.

I guess Clark is still burning over the reception his own candidacy
received; so much so that he's apparently not noticed that his guy has
no military experience whatsoever and is presumably then even less
qualified than McCain might be.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | b...@iphouse.com

Gee, Bertie, last election you used the Swiftboat Bouis to get Kerry.
Your administration never, ever served but they had the political
muscle to beat up on Kerry for his valiant, honorable service. Pricks
like you accused Kerry of every thing but Auschwitz while your draft
dodging two some got off scot free.

So how does telling lies make you feel? Good? Of does winning take
away the bad taste.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 5:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
Quote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
  a.. Story Highlights
  b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience

  c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"

  d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments

(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

---

Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.  McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.  That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.

Kindly list the executive military experience or both Barak Obama and
Hillary Clinton.
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Daniel
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 11:34 am, "W Spilman" <f...@you.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.Com> wrote in message

news:ibrh64p4qbng64ffll36l0h6cb07upknhu@4ax.com...



On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:21:54 -0500, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
 a.. Story Highlights
 b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
 c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered
the
bombs to fall"
 d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen.
John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.
McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.

Clark received a call the following evening from General Hugh Shelton
who said he had been told by Secretary Cohen to deliver a piece of
guidance verbatim. "Get your fucking face off the TV. No more
briefings, period. That's it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Clark, on the other hand, had planned for the Kosovo Force to police
the area. Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana,
and was told "of course you have to get to the airport" and "you have
transfer of authority" in the area. The British commander of the
Kosovo Force, General Mike Jackson, however refused to block the
Russians through military action saying "I'm not going to start the
Third World War for you." Jackson has said he refused to take action
because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military
confrontation with the Russians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Question: "Do you regret that that [bombing of Radio Television
Serbia] happened, that you did that?

Clark: No, I don't regret that at all. That was part of the Serb
command and control network. And not only that, I was asked to take
out that television by a lot of important political leaders. And
before I took it out, I twice warned the Serbs we were going to take
it out. We stopped, at one news conference in the Pentagon, we planted
the question to get the attention of the Serbs, that we were going to
target Serb Radio and Television.

Question: But you killed civilians.

Clark: Six people died.

Question:  I think sixteen. But I think it's the media-it's the
beauticians, the technicians. It was a civilian target.

Clark: Yeah, they were ordered to stay there by Milosevic. Yeah.

Question:  But it was a civilian target.

Clark: It was not a civilian target. It was a military target. It was
part of the Serb command and control network.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presiden...

That type of executive miltary experience is crucial.

That's why we have a JCS.

Clark was successful. Bush/McCain are failures.
No more to say.
WS

Is that why BJ fired him?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:21:54 -0500, "baxter" <1@net.com> wrote:
Quote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it. McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.

Clark received a call the following evening from General Hugh Shelton
who said he had been told by Secretary Cohen to deliver a piece of
guidance verbatim. "Get your fucking face off the TV. No more
briefings, period. That's it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Clark, on the other hand, had planned for the Kosovo Force to police
the area. Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana,
and was told "of course you have to get to the airport" and "you have
transfer of authority" in the area. The British commander of the
Kosovo Force, General Mike Jackson, however refused to block the
Russians through military action saying "I'm not going to start the
Third World War for you." Jackson has said he refused to take action
because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military
confrontation with the Russians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Question: "Do you regret that that [bombing of Radio Television
Serbia] happened, that you did that?

Clark: No, I don’t regret that at all. That was part of the Serb
command and control network. And not only that, I was asked to take
out that television by a lot of important political leaders. And
before I took it out, I twice warned the Serbs we were going to take
it out. We stopped, at one news conference in the Pentagon, we planted
the question to get the attention of the Serbs, that we were going to
target Serb Radio and Television.

Question: But you killed civilians.

Clark: Six people died.

Question: I think sixteen. But I think it’s the media—it’s the
beauticians, the technicians. It was a civilian target.

Clark: Yeah, they were ordered to stay there by Milosevic. Yeah.

Question: But it was a civilian target.

Clark: It was not a civilian target. It was a military target. It was
part of the Serb command and control network.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presidential_bid

Quote:
That type of executive miltary experience is crucial.

That's why we have a JCS.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

"Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.Com> wrote in message
news:ibrh64p4qbng64ffll36l0h6cb07upknhu@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:21:54 -0500, "baxter" <1@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered
the
bombs to fall"
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen.
John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.
McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.

Clark received a call the following evening from General Hugh Shelton
who said he had been told by Secretary Cohen to deliver a piece of
guidance verbatim. "Get your fucking face off the TV. No more
briefings, period. That's it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Clark, on the other hand, had planned for the Kosovo Force to police
the area. Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana,
and was told "of course you have to get to the airport" and "you have
transfer of authority" in the area. The British commander of the
Kosovo Force, General Mike Jackson, however refused to block the
Russians through military action saying "I'm not going to start the
Third World War for you." Jackson has said he refused to take action
because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military
confrontation with the Russians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Question: "Do you regret that that [bombing of Radio Television
Serbia] happened, that you did that?

Clark: No, I don't regret that at all. That was part of the Serb
command and control network. And not only that, I was asked to take
out that television by a lot of important political leaders. And
before I took it out, I twice warned the Serbs we were going to take
it out. We stopped, at one news conference in the Pentagon, we planted
the question to get the attention of the Serbs, that we were going to
target Serb Radio and Television.

Question: But you killed civilians.

Clark: Six people died.

Question: I think sixteen. But I think it's the media-it's the
beauticians, the technicians. It was a civilian target.

Clark: Yeah, they were ordered to stay there by Milosevic. Yeah.

Question: But it was a civilian target.

Clark: It was not a civilian target. It was a military target. It was
part of the Serb command and control network.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presidential_bid

That type of executive miltary experience is crucial.

That's why we have a JCS.

Clark was successful. Bush/McCain are failures.
No more to say.
WS
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 11:34 am, "W Spilman" <f...@you.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.Com> wrote in message

news:ibrh64p4qbng64ffll36l0h6cb07upknhu@4ax.com...



On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:21:54 -0500, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
 a.. Story Highlights
 b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
 c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered
the
bombs to fall"
 d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen.
John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.
McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.

Clark received a call the following evening from General Hugh Shelton
who said he had been told by Secretary Cohen to deliver a piece of
guidance verbatim. "Get your fucking face off the TV. No more
briefings, period. That's it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Clark, on the other hand, had planned for the Kosovo Force to police
the area. Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana,
and was told "of course you have to get to the airport" and "you have
transfer of authority" in the area. The British commander of the
Kosovo Force, General Mike Jackson, however refused to block the
Russians through military action saying "I'm not going to start the
Third World War for you." Jackson has said he refused to take action
because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military
confrontation with the Russians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Question: "Do you regret that that [bombing of Radio Television
Serbia] happened, that you did that?

Clark: No, I don't regret that at all. That was part of the Serb
command and control network. And not only that, I was asked to take
out that television by a lot of important political leaders. And
before I took it out, I twice warned the Serbs we were going to take
it out. We stopped, at one news conference in the Pentagon, we planted
the question to get the attention of the Serbs, that we were going to
target Serb Radio and Television.

Question: But you killed civilians.

Clark: Six people died.

Question:  I think sixteen. But I think it's the media-it's the
beauticians, the technicians. It was a civilian target.

Clark: Yeah, they were ordered to stay there by Milosevic. Yeah.

Question:  But it was a civilian target.

Clark: It was not a civilian target. It was a military target. It was
part of the Serb command and control network.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presiden...

That type of executive miltary experience is crucial.

That's why we have a JCS.

Clark was successful. Bush/McCain are failures.
No more to say.
WS

If Clark was so successful, why are we still in Kosovo?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 1:21 pm, The Trucker <mik...@verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:59:24 -0700, Daniel wrote:
On Jun 30, 5:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
  a.. Story Highlights
  b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience

  c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"

  d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments

(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

---

Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.  McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.  That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.

Kindly list the executive military experience or both Barak Obama and
Hillary Clinton.

Why?  They do not make such claims.


According to the Democrat lapdog GEN Clark, that type of executive
military experience is CRUCIAL. Now, kindly list Clinton and Obamas
experience.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

1@net.com (baxter) wrote in
news:WA1ak.252247$ng7.110629@en-nntp-05.dc1.easynews.com:

Quote:
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified

Fascinating.

First, some yahoos tried to make military service a qualification for
the presidency.

Next, the ante was raised to actually seeing combat while in military
service.

Now, it looks like the bozos are claiming that unless you were a
theater commander, you're not qualified.

I guess Clark is still burning over the reception his own candidacy
received; so much so that he's apparently not noticed that his guy has
no military experience whatsoever and is presumably then even less
qualified than McCain might be.

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | bert@iphouse.com
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 5:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
Quote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
  a.. Story Highlights
  b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience

  c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"

  d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments

(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

---

Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.  McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.  That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.

So Obama and his campaign plans on "attacking" McCain on his war
record? Well we Americans are sure glad that he's running a "clean"
campaign based on the "issues". I guess Obama's close pal and mentor
the, Rev. Wright, was correct when he said that Obama was a "typical
politician". Now his campaign,Obama's, is looking more and more like
the "King with no clothes" fairytale story...................very
little substance. Sad......
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 11:34 am, "W Spilman" <f...@you.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.Com> wrote in message

news:ibrh64p4qbng64ffll36l0h6cb07upknhu@4ax.com...



On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:21:54 -0500, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
 a.. Story Highlights
 b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
 c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered
the
bombs to fall"
 d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen.
John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.
McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.

Clark received a call the following evening from General Hugh Shelton
who said he had been told by Secretary Cohen to deliver a piece of
guidance verbatim. "Get your fucking face off the TV. No more
briefings, period. That's it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Clark, on the other hand, had planned for the Kosovo Force to police
the area. Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana,
and was told "of course you have to get to the airport" and "you have
transfer of authority" in the area. The British commander of the
Kosovo Force, General Mike Jackson, however refused to block the
Russians through military action saying "I'm not going to start the
Third World War for you." Jackson has said he refused to take action
because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military
confrontation with the Russians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Question: "Do you regret that that [bombing of Radio Television
Serbia] happened, that you did that?

Clark: No, I don't regret that at all. That was part of the Serb
command and control network. And not only that, I was asked to take
out that television by a lot of important political leaders. And
before I took it out, I twice warned the Serbs we were going to take
it out. We stopped, at one news conference in the Pentagon, we planted
the question to get the attention of the Serbs, that we were going to
target Serb Radio and Television.

Question: But you killed civilians.

Clark: Six people died.

Question:  I think sixteen. But I think it's the media-it's the
beauticians, the technicians. It was a civilian target.

Clark: Yeah, they were ordered to stay there by Milosevic. Yeah.

Question:  But it was a civilian target.

Clark: It was not a civilian target. It was a military target. It was
part of the Serb command and control network.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presiden...

That type of executive miltary experience is crucial.

That's why we have a JCS.

Clark was successful. Bush/McCain are failures.
No more to say.
WS
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:59:24 -0700, Daniel wrote:

Quote:
On Jun 30, 5:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
  a.. Story Highlights
  b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience

  c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"

  d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments

(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

---

Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.  McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.  That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.

Kindly list the executive military experience or both Barak Obama and
Hillary Clinton.

Why? They do not make such claims.

--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org/extend
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 5:33 pm, "W Spilman" <f...@you.com> wrote:
Quote:
"Daniel" <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:4ff89976-427d-4d54-828d-69cf58470b4b@8g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 30, 11:34 am, "W Spilman" <f...@you.com> wrote:



"Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.Com> wrote in message

news:ibrh64p4qbng64ffll36l0h6cb07upknhu@4ax.com...

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:21:54 -0500, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered
the
bombs to fall"
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen.
John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.
McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.

Clark received a call the following evening from General Hugh Shelton
who said he had been told by Secretary Cohen to deliver a piece of
guidance verbatim. "Get your fucking face off the TV. No more
briefings, period. That's it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Clark, on the other hand, had planned for the Kosovo Force to police
the area. Clark called then-Secretary General of NATO Javier Solana,
and was told "of course you have to get to the airport" and "you have
transfer of authority" in the area. The British commander of the
Kosovo Force, General Mike Jackson, however refused to block the
Russians through military action saying "I'm not going to start the
Third World War for you." Jackson has said he refused to take action
because he did not believe it was worth the risk of a military
confrontation with the Russians.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wesley_Clark

Question: "Do you regret that that [bombing of Radio Television
Serbia] happened, that you did that?

Clark: No, I don't regret that at all. That was part of the Serb
command and control network. And not only that, I was asked to take
out that television by a lot of important political leaders. And
before I took it out, I twice warned the Serbs we were going to take
it out. We stopped, at one news conference in the Pentagon, we planted
the question to get the attention of the Serbs, that we were going to
target Serb Radio and Television.

Question: But you killed civilians.

Clark: Six people died.

Question: I think sixteen. But I think it's the media-it's the
beauticians, the technicians. It was a civilian target.

Clark: Yeah, they were ordered to stay there by Milosevic. Yeah.

Question: But it was a civilian target.

Clark: It was not a civilian target. It was a military target. It was
part of the Serb command and control network.
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/3/2/gen_wesley_clark_weighs_presiden....

That type of executive miltary experience is crucial.

That's why we have a JCS.

Clark was successful. Bush/McCain are failures.
No more to say.
WS
If Clark was so successful, why are we still in Kosovo?

You couldn't even think of both your stupid questions
at the same time.
WS

If Clark was so successful, why are we still in Kosovo?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Jun 30, 5:35 pm, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:37:32 -0700 (PDT), Daniel



sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 30, 1:21 pm, The Trucker <mik...@verizon.net> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:59:24 -0700, Daniel wrote:
On Jun 30, 5:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
  a.. Story Highlights
  b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience

  c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"

  d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments

(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

---

Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.  McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall.  That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.

Kindly list the executive military experience or both Barak Obama and
Hillary Clinton.

Why?  They do not make such claims.

According to the Democrat lapdog GEN Clark, that type of executive
military experience is CRUCIAL. Now, kindly list Clinton and Obamas
experience.

Actually that's a lie. He said nothing of the sort. Why would you say
he did?

Here's what he ACTUALLY said: " "I certainly honor his service as a
prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and
millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war. And he
has traveled all over the world. But he hasn't held executive
responsibility," said Clark, a former NATO commander who campaigned
for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004.
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"He hasn't been there and ordered the bombs to fall. He hasn't seen
what it's like when diplomats come in and say, I don't know whether
we're going to be able to get this point through or not," Clark said.

Schieffer noted that Obama did not have any of those experiences, nor
had he "ridden in a fighter plane and gotten shot down."

"Well, I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down
is a qualification to be president," Clark said.

You might note none of this says military experience is crucial. What
it says is McCain's emphasis of his service adds nothing to his
qualifications.

Now try to be more honest, 'kay?

Kindly cite Clinton and Obamas executive responsibility.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain Reply with quote

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 04:21:54 -0500, "baxter" <1@net.com> wrote:

Quote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview

Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience

c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"

d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments

(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.

---
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it. McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.


IMHO, Clark has sunk to the level of political scumbucket
with those remarks.

ANY military experience is a plus for future C&Cs - and
puttin' your butt in harms way for the Red, White & Blue
is a definite indicator of 'character'.

Doesn't mean it all gives McCain an overwhelming advantage
over Obama ... just a few checkboxes amongst many on the
list for "best candidate and why" ... but they're ones
Obama can't claim.

Dunno if "NOT being military" might be considered a plus
in its own right nowadays. Seems like militarist thinking
and 'solutions' have been getting us REAMED of late. Ain't
the days of empire and rough-riders anymore ; the world
has changed.
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