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 Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 6, 12:51 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
None, what's your point.
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See below.
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Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
The fact is that Kerrys Purple Hearts are a fraud, used merely to get
himself out of Vietnam. Deal with it.
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You take the word of right wing wackos rather than the military.
You devalue Purple Hearts when you accept such silly assertions.
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What's your rank soldier?
Staff Sergeant, what's yours?
I quit as a tech sarge in 1976. OK, only 6 years. During the war
they guys were military. After the war it was advanced boyscouts.
One time during an inspection I got written up for "almost being in
violation of 3510." When the first shirt walked out the door I
muttered
"Jeez." He heard me, came back in and sent me to the commander.
A few weeks later they wanted me to reup again. While I look back
and wish I had stayed in I'm not sure I could have survived the mickey
mouse routines.
Yeah, you sound like the epitome of a libtard who thought being in the
military was for you. Who wold have thought that the military would
expect discipline from a soldier?
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Discipline? That's not the issue. The issue was things like being
moved
up two flights of stairs while in the hospital with a broken leg then
being
held responsible for the foot prints on the ceiling at the inspection
when
I returned. It was the parades for the singles but not for the
married enlisted.
It was getting written up for almost being in violation of 3510. (The
sarge
wanted people to have their sideburns to the top of the opening of the
ear
rather than the bottom as specified in the regs.
I had no problem with being told I would be shot if I took my eyes off
of
the computer ribbons prior to them being completely destroyed and
stirred
in with the other ashes. I had no problem with being kicked into a
sub-zero
blizzard in my sweaty gym shorts and told to get back to my barracks.
I had
no problem with pulling 48hr shifts (once it was 7hrs while the
blizzard raged.
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One of my friends just got one of the highest non-combat awards.
Which would be?
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Should I tell you his name?
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He's telling me they can't wait for the next president to come in.
His issues are things like turnaround, poor armor, etc.
Poor armor.....That's priceless.
Since he
grew up on military bases he knew the military.
Just because someone grows up on a military installation doesn't mean
they know jack shit about the military.
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Come on. You don't seem to know the military.
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He's become quite
liberal now. He says their fighting not for the president but for the
other guys out there in the military. If he wasn't out there doing
his job someone else would have to be. He says he's only going
to stay to 25. Maybe things will get better once we get a new
administration. He a good kid.
LOL...You're hilarious. He didn't "become" liberal, he has always been
a libtard loser, just like you.
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Now how would you know that? You a psychic? Maybe a psycho. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 6, 4:38 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
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On Jul 6, 12:51 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
None, what's your point.
See below.
Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
The fact is that Kerrys Purple Hearts are a fraud, used merely to get
himself out of Vietnam. Deal with it.
You take the word of right wing wackos rather than the military.
You devalue Purple Hearts when you accept such silly assertions.
What's your rank soldier?
Staff Sergeant, what's yours?
I quit as a tech sarge in 1976. OK, only 6 years. During the war
they guys were military. After the war it was advanced boyscouts.
One time during an inspection I got written up for "almost being in
violation of 3510." When the first shirt walked out the door I
muttered
"Jeez." He heard me, came back in and sent me to the commander.
A few weeks later they wanted me to reup again. While I look back
and wish I had stayed in I'm not sure I could have survived the mickey
mouse routines.
Yeah, you sound like the epitome of a libtard who thought being in the
military was for you. Who wold have thought that the military would
expect discipline from a soldier?
Discipline? That's not the issue. The issue was things like being
moved
up two flights of stairs while in the hospital with a broken leg then
being
held responsible for the foot prints on the ceiling at the inspection
when
I returned. It was the parades for the singles but not for the
married enlisted.
It was getting written up for almost being in violation of 3510. (The
sarge
wanted people to have their sideburns to the top of the opening of the
ear
rather than the bottom as specified in the regs.
I had no problem with being told I would be shot if I took my eyes off
of
the computer ribbons prior to them being completely destroyed and
stirred
in with the other ashes. I had no problem with being kicked into a
sub-zero
blizzard in my sweaty gym shorts and told to get back to my barracks.
I had
no problem with pulling 48hr shifts (once it was 7hrs while the
blizzard raged.
One of my friends just got one of the highest non-combat awards.
Which would be?
Should I tell you his name?
He's telling me they can't wait for the next president to come in.
His issues are things like turnaround, poor armor, etc.
Poor armor.....That's priceless.
Since he
grew up on military bases he knew the military.
Just because someone grows up on a military installation doesn't mean
they know jack shit about the military.
Come on. You don't seem to know the military.
He's become quite
liberal now. He says their fighting not for the president but for the
other guys out there in the military. If he wasn't out there doing
his job someone else would have to be. He says he's only going
to stay to 25. Maybe things will get better once we get a new
administration. He a good kid.
LOL...You're hilarious. He didn't "become" liberal, he has always been
a libtard loser, just like you.
Now how would you know that? You a psychic? Maybe a psycho.- Hide quoted text -
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| Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 6, 10:47 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Please get back to us when you actually have a point.
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Who is this "us" to which you refer? Certainly not the rational
patriots. You do a disservice to the military by your actions
and words. You would have us believe the military hands how
silver stars and purple hearts without investigation. You tarnish
them by your words. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject: If McCain was the democrat (was Clark: Getting 'shot down in |
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On Jul 4, 11:19 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
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Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
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During the Republican nomination process many republicans
pointed out how McCain would side with democrats on many
issues. The one stark difference is his staunch support of the
Iraq war. So "what if?" McCain had of been against the war
and ran as a democrat and say Mitt Romney was the
republicans nominee.
Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that the republican
campaign would not "swiftboat" McCain's service
record? There are some clues out there.
Remember the worst lie you tell is the one you
tell yourself. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:49 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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Daniel wrote:
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What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
None, what's your point?
Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
The fact is that Kerrys Purple Hearts are a fraud, used merely to get
himself out of Vietnam. Deal with it.
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---Even if this were true(which it's not), at least Kerry went to
Vietnam, unlike 5 deferment Cheney and anal cyst Limbaugh, the chicken
hawk list goes on and on....
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What's your rank soldier?
Staff Sergeant, what's yours?
I quit as a tech sarge in 1976. OK, only 6 years. During the war
they guys were military. After the war it was advanced boyscouts.
One time during an inspection I got written up for "almost being in
violation of 3510." When the first shirt walked out the door I
muttered
"Jeez." He heard me, came back in and sent me to the commander.
A few weeks later they wanted me to reup again. While I look back
and wish I had stayed in I'm not sure I could have survived the mickey
mouse routines.
Yeah, you sound like the epitome of a libtard who thought being in the
military was for you. Who wold have thought that the military would
expect discipline from a soldier?
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---Yup, you gotta enjoy being a robot and sucking ass to be a lifer .....
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One of my friends just got one of the highest non-combat awards.
Which would be?
He's telling me they can't wait for the next president to come in.
His issues are things like turnaround, poor armor, etc.
Poor armor.....That's priceless.
Since he
grew up on military bases he knew the military.
Just because someone grows up on a military installation doesn't mean
they know jack shit about the military.
He's become quite
liberal now. He says their fighting not for the president but for the
other guys out there in the military. If he wasn't out there doing
his job someone else would have to be. He says he's only going
to stay to 25. Maybe things will get better once we get a new
administration. He a good kid.
LOL...You're hilarious. He didn't "become" liberal, he has always been
a libtard loser, just like you.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:42 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:49:48 -0400, suds macheath
<sudsmcduff@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Daniel wrote:
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
None, what's your point?
Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
The fact is that Kerrys Purple Hearts are a fraud, used merely to get
himself out of Vietnam. Deal with it.
---Even if this were true(which it's not),
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Only one of the Purple Hearts is indisputable. The first one, he
nicked himself out on patrol and his CO refused to endorse his
request. The 2nd one he again gashed himself on his own boat. Most
infantrymen in Vietnam would have been embarrassed to get awards for
ordinary cuts and scrapes like those. The 3rd one he DID take a small
shell fragment that put him off his feet for..half a day? and it was
combat related so he gets a pass on that.
However, please note that MANY servicemen received 3 or more Purple
Hearts in Vietnam and the only ones recorded who took advantage of the
"3 Hearts and you're out!" program were usually carried out on
stretchers. Max Cleland got his one (and only) Purple Heart when he
picked up a hand grenade he thought he had dropped while getting out
of a helicopter. He didn't need 3 to get EVAC'd back stateside. Kerry
strolled into (well, sailed into) the Mekong Delta with all parts
attached and working properly, 4 months later he strolled back out
none the worse for wear and tear. He said that was plenty of time to
get his quota of "rape, pillage, and burning in the manner of Jingus
Khan" and left.
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at least Kerry went to
Vietnam, unlike 5 deferment Cheney and anal cyst Limbaugh, the chicken
hawk list goes on and on....
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Neither Cheney nor Limbaugh ran for office on a military service
platform. Kerry did - you do remember the "REPORTING FOR DUTY!"
bellow and goofy salute at the DNC convention, don't you? - so it was
legitimate to critique his service.
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What's your rank soldier?
Staff Sergeant, what's yours?
I quit as a tech sarge in 1976. OK, only 6 years. During the war
they guys were military. After the war it was advanced boyscouts.
One time during an inspection I got written up for "almost being in
violation of 3510." When the first shirt walked out the door I
muttered
"Jeez." He heard me, came back in and sent me to the commander.
A few weeks later they wanted me to reup again. While I look back
and wish I had stayed in I'm not sure I could have survived the mickey
mouse routines.
Yeah, you sound like the epitome of a libtard who thought being in the
military was for you. Who wold have thought that the military would
expect discipline from a soldier?
---Yup, you gotta enjoy being a robot and sucking ass to be a lifer .....
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Or you can do that working at XEROX or any large corporation. Some
people think walking up and down the streets delivering mail. is
fullfilling. Don't crticize.
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One of my friends just got one of the highest non-combat awards.
Which would be?
He's telling me they can't wait for the next president to come in.
His issues are things like turnaround, poor armor, etc.
Poor armor.....That's priceless.
Since he
grew up on military bases he knew the military.
Just because someone grows up on a military installation doesn't mean
they know jack shit about the military.
He's become quite
liberal now. He says their fighting not for the president but for the
other guys out there in the military. If he wasn't out there doing
his job someone else would have to be. He says he's only going
to stay to 25. Maybe things will get better once we get a new
administration. He a good kid.
LOL...You're hilarious. He didn't "become" liberal, he has always been
a libtard loser, just like you.
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"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken
line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the
audience here today -- "
- from Obama's 2008 Memorial Day address,
aka the "I See Dead People!" speech.
Update: "I am not going to denounce this church [Trinity],
it is not a church worthy of denouncing."
- A clearly rattled Obama, asked by a reporter if he was
going to criticize comments at his church that finally
forced him to resign from it. This guy is supposed to be
a brilliant orator? See the video at
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/obama-gives-up-trinity-church.html |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: Re: If McCain was the democrat (was Clark: Getting 'shot dow |
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 05:33:19 -0700 (PDT), maxwelton@my-deja.com wrote:
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On Jul 4, 11:19 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
During the Republican nomination process many republicans
pointed out how McCain would side with democrats on many
issues. The one stark difference is his staunch support of the
Iraq war. So "what if?" McCain had of been against the war
and ran as a democrat and say Mitt Romney was the
republicans nominee.
Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that the republican
campaign would not "swiftboat" McCain's service
record?
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"swiftboat" is a Democrat codeword for, "Damn! They didn't take me at
my word and caught me in a lie!" There are no lies in McCain's
service record, no blemishes on the order of, say, swearing a false
statement before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, or
"pretending" to throw his medals at the Pentagon during a violent
anti-war demonstration.
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There are some clues out there.
Remember the worst lie you tell is the one you
tell yourself.
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You should pay attention to whoever said that to you. He was trying
to tell you something.
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"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken
line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the
audience here today -- "
- from Obama's 2008 Memorial Day address,
aka the "I See Dead People!" speech.
Update: "I am not going to denounce this church [Trinity],
it is not a church worthy of denouncing."
- A clearly rattled Obama, asked by a reporter if he was
going to criticize comments at his church that finally
forced him to resign from it. This guy is supposed to be
a brilliant orator? See the video at
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/obama-gives-up-trinity-church.html |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:59 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 7, 2:27 am, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
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On Jul 6, 10:47 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Please get back to us when you actually have a point.
Who is this "us" to which you refer? Certainly not the rational
patriots. You do a disservice to the military by your actions
and words. You would have us believe the military hands how
silver stars and purple hearts without investigation. You tarnish
them by your words.
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The fact remains that Kerry did not earn his Purple Hearts, no matter
how you try to smear me with your weak ass bullshit. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 8, 11:49 am, suds macheath <sudsmcd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Daniel wrote:
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
None, what's your point?
Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
The fact is that Kerrys Purple Hearts are a fraud, used merely to get
himself out of Vietnam. Deal with it.
---Even if this were true(which it's not), at least Kerry went to
Vietnam, unlike 5 deferment Cheney and anal cyst Limbaugh, the chicken
hawk list goes on and on....
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Actually, the records themselves point to them being a fraud. Thanks
for playing.
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What's your rank soldier?
Staff Sergeant, what's yours?
I quit as a tech sarge in 1976. OK, only 6 years. During the war
they guys were military. After the war it was advanced boyscouts.
One time during an inspection I got written up for "almost being in
violation of 3510." When the first shirt walked out the door I
muttered
"Jeez." He heard me, came back in and sent me to the commander.
A few weeks later they wanted me to reup again. While I look back
and wish I had stayed in I'm not sure I could have survived the mickey
mouse routines.
Yeah, you sound like the epitome of a libtard who thought being in the
military was for you. Who wold have thought that the military would
expect discipline from a soldier?
---Yup, you gotta enjoy being a robot and sucking ass to be a lifer .....
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Typical libtard anti military tripe. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 8, 7:42 pm, orio...@earthlink.net wrote:
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On Tue, 08 Jul 2008 11:49:48 -0400, suds macheath
sudsmcd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Daniel wrote:
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
None, what's your point?
Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
The fact is that Kerrys Purple Hearts are a fraud, used merely to get
himself out of Vietnam. Deal with it.
---Even if this were true(which it's not),
Only one of the Purple Hearts is indisputable. The first one, he
nicked himself out on patrol and his CO refused to endorse his
request. The 2nd one he again gashed himself on his own boat. Most
infantrymen in Vietnam would have been embarrassed to get awards for
ordinary cuts and scrapes like those. The 3rd one he DID take a small
shell fragment that put him off his feet for..half a day? and it was
combat related so he gets a pass on that.
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It was from his own grenade, which disqualifies him from receiving a
purple heart. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 9, 10:59 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 7, 2:27 am, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 6, 10:47 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Please get back to us when you actually have a point.
Who is this "us" to which you refer? Certainly not the rational
patriots. You do a disservice to the military by your actions
and words. You would have us believe the military hands how
silver stars and purple hearts without investigation. You tarnish
them by your words.
The fact remains that Kerry did not earn his Purple Hearts, no matter
how you try to smear me with your weak ass bullshit.
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The DOD said he did. Are you calling the DOD a liar?
You smear yourself by asserting you are military but
that the military leadership is a bunch of liars. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 9, 10:59 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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The fact remains that Kerry did not earn his Purple Hearts, no matter
how you try to smear me with your weak ass bullshit.
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Actually, the FACT is that he did earn them. fact. Not your silly
made up fiction, but plain old legal everyday fact. Why do you
lie, danny? never mind, it's clear why you lie. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 9, 9:17 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
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On Jul 9, 10:59 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 7, 2:27 am, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 6, 10:47 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Please get back to us when you actually have a point.
Who is this "us" to which you refer? Certainly not the rational
patriots. You do a disservice to the military by your actions
and words. You would have us believe the military hands how
silver stars and purple hearts without investigation. You tarnish
them by your words.
The fact remains that Kerry did not earn his Purple Hearts, no matter
how you try to smear me with your weak ass bullshit.
The DOD said he did.
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The facts of the incident do not match what was told to get him his
third Purple Heart. Where have you been? This was all hashed out 4
years ago.
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Are you calling the DOD a liar?
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No, I'm calling Kerry a liar and fraud.
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You smear yourself by asserting you are military but
that the military leadership is a bunch of liars.
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I never called the "military leadership" a bunch of liars, I called
Kerry a liar and fraud. Get your lies straight. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:51 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 10, 3:04 am, Tim Crowley <timmyturm...@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 9, 10:59 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
The fact remains that Kerry did not earn his Purple Hearts, no matter
how you try to smear me with your weak ass bullshit.
Actually, the FACT is that he did earn them. fact. Not your silly
made up fiction, but plain old legal everyday fact. Why do you
lie, danny? never mind, it's clear why you lie.
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Actually, the facts show he did NOT earn his third Purple Heart. These
facts were hashed out 4 years ago, where have you been? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 10, 1:50 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 9, 9:17 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 9, 10:59 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 7, 2:27 am, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 6, 10:47 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Please get back to us when you actually have a point.
Who is this "us" to which you refer? Certainly not the rational
patriots. You do a disservice to the military by your actions
and words. You would have us believe the military hands how
silver stars and purple hearts without investigation. You tarnish
them by your words.
The fact remains that Kerry did not earn his Purple Hearts, no matter
how you try to smear me with your weak ass bullshit.
The DOD said he did.
The facts of the incident do not match what was told to get him his
third Purple Heart. Where have you been? This was all hashed out 4
years ago.
Are you calling the DOD a liar?
No, I'm calling Kerry a liar and fraud.
You smear yourself by asserting you are military but
that the military leadership is a bunch of liars.
I never called the "military leadership" a bunch of liars, I called
Kerry a liar and fraud. Get your lies straight.
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How stupid are you? Are you saying the DOD didn't issue
any purple heart or silver or bronze medals to Kerry? These aren't
just
issued like candy. There are investigations. You should get
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