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 Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"
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d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
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(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
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Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it. McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.
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OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are now
insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum requirement
to serve in the White House, why are they running a candidate who's
never served a minute in his life? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it. McCain
was never the one ordering the s to fall. That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.
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When did Obama order s to fall? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 4, 12:04 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 3, 11:54 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:10 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 10:43 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Daniel
sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not only are you libtards trying to disqualify McCain, you are once
again smearing a soldier.
LOL. This from the party that invented swift boating and attacked Max
Cleland as "unpatriotic"?
LOL. Go away you slimey dog.
Swiftboating? You mean exposing Kerry for the fraud he is?
What a joke. Saying that being shot down doesn't qualify one
as prsident is "smearing a soldier" but making up stories about
someone's war record is "exposing ... the fraud".
Kerrys military "service" is most certainly a fraud. But then, Kerry
has a history of smearing soldiers, including those of us that
currently serve.
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Strange, I don't remember any such activity.
Winter Soldier?
What are you talking about?
So, do you support torture? I'm just trying to get a feel of your
position. My military friends don't like the current administration.
They serve the country they love. They are waiting for a change.
When you start openning your eyes you will see the disservice
you are doing to our country by not aknowledging wrong doing
where it exists even if done by servicemen and that reporting
wrong doing is the right thing to do.
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
What's your rank soldier? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 4, 4:56 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
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On Jul 4, 12:04 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:54 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:10 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 10:43 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Daniel
sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not only are you libtards trying to disqualify McCain, you are once
again smearing a soldier.
LOL. This from the party that invented swift boating and attacked Max
Cleland as "unpatriotic"?
LOL. Go away you slimey dog.
Swiftboating? You mean exposing Kerry for the fraud he is?
What a joke. Saying that being shot down doesn't qualify one
as prsident is "smearing a soldier" but making up stories about
someone's war record is "exposing ... the fraud".
Kerrys military "service" is most certainly a fraud. But then, Kerry
has a history of smearing soldiers, including those of us that
currently serve.
Strange, I don't remember any such activity.
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Should we start with his throwing his "hard earned" medals, or his
saying that soldiers are stuck in Iraq because they are stupid?
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Winter Soldier?
What are you talking about?
So, do you support torture? I'm just trying to get a feel of your
position. My military friends don't like the current administration.
They serve the country they love. They are waiting for a change.
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You don't have any military friends, the military is Republican by a
vast majority.
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When you start openning your eyes you will see the disservice
you are doing to our country by not aknowledging wrong doing
where it exists even if done by servicemen and that reporting
wrong doing is the right thing to do.
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
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Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
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What's your rank soldier?
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Staff Sergeant, what's yours? |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 20:54:17 -0700 (PDT), forbisgaryg@msn.com wrote:
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On Jul 3, 11:10 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 10:43 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Daniel
sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not only are you libtards trying to disqualify McCain, you are once
again smearing a soldier.
LOL. This from the party that invented swift boating and attacked Max
Cleland as "unpatriotic"?
LOL. Go away you slimey dog.
Swiftboating? You mean exposing Kerry for the fraud he is?
What a joke. Saying that being shot down doesn't qualify one
as prsident is "smearing a soldier" but making up stories about
someone's war record is "exposing ... the fraud".
And McCain hires one of the liars.
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And the right has even adopted the verb, acknowledging the truth of
it. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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dead kennedy haters wrote:
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On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't "ordered the
bombs to fall"
.
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
.
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen. John
McCain's military experience qualified him to be commander-in-chief.
.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it. McCain
was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type of executive
miltary experience is crucial.
.
OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are now
insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum requirement
to serve in the White House, why are they running a candidate who's
never served a minute in his life?
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Different rules apply to Democrats. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 3:23 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 4, 8:19 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
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David Hartung <d_hart...@comcast.net> wrote innews:J6KdnTgXOpTY5vPVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com:
dead kennedy haters wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't
"ordered the
bombs to fall"
.
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
.
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen.
John McCain's military experience qualified him to be
commander-in-chief.
.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.
McCain was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type of
executive miltary experience is crucial.
.
OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are now
insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum requirement
to serve in the White House, why are they running a candidate who's
never served a minute in his life?
Different rules apply to Democrats.
Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
Mitchell Holman
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McCain's war record:
# Silver Star
# Legion of Merit
# Bronze Star Medal
# Purple Heart
# Distinguished Flying Cross
# Prisoner of War Medal
# National Defense Service Medal
# Vietnam Service Medal
# Vietnam Campaign Medal
Obama's service: 0
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The person you're voting for Obama: 0 |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 7:43 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 13:56:11 -0700 (PDT), forbisgaryg@msn.com wrote:
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On Jul 4, 12:04 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:54 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:10 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 10:43 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Daniel
sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not only are you libtards trying to disqualify McCain, you are once
again smearing a soldier.
LOL. This from the party that invented swift boating and attacked Max
Cleland as "unpatriotic"?
LOL. Go away you slimey dog.
Swiftboating? You mean exposing Kerry for the fraud he is?
What a joke. Saying that being shot down doesn't qualify one
as prsident is "smearing a soldier" but making up stories about
someone's war record is "exposing ... the fraud".
Kerrys military "service" is most certainly a fraud. But then, Kerry
has a history of smearing soldiers, including those of us that
currently serve.
Strange, I don't remember any such activity.
Winter Soldier?
What are you talking about?
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Starting from the beginning? When Kerry returned from Vietnam he ran
for political office in Massachusetts as a war hero which, in MASS.,
really wasn't a bright idea even back then. He then joined an antiwar
group and reinvented himself as an opponent of the war. Vietnam
Veterans Against the War (VVAW) was an oddball little group with a
murky history. One of the founders claimed to have been a combat
pilot in Vietnam who had committed attrocities against the Vietnamese
people; it turned out he never rose above the rank of sergeant and
*may* have flown into Saigon airport a couple of times as a cargo
handler. During Vietnam his permanent station was somewhere in the
midwest.
Anyway, in 1971 VVAW and a number of other antiwar groups held an
event called the "Winter Soldier Investigation". Whole bunch of
antiwar types got together and swore affidavits that they had
committed Crimes Against Humanity in Vietnam and their superiors knew
about it. Kerry presented a copy of the "testimony" to the Senate
Foreign Relations Committee when he was asked by its (antiwar)
chairman, Senator Fullbright, to testify on their behalf. Kerry
declared that it was common for US troops to rape, murder, and pillage
the Vietnamese civilians and that he and others had committed war
crimes "reminiscent of Jingus Khan" while over there. Most of the
stories *about* US attrociites in Vietnam entered the US consciousness
because of this hearing. The newspapers picked it up and Kerry became
an overnight sensation, eventually parlaying his notoriety into a seat
in the House and then the Senate.
Problem is, the Winter Soldier Investigation turned out to be a pack
of lies. Not one of the affidavits could be confirmed, one
participant eventually admitted that he had been coached and hadn't
actually done or seen any of the things he had sworn to, and several
veterans contacted about their testimony said they had never even
heard of the event - local antiwar activists had sworn out those
statements using their names. Those weren't even "legal" affidavits:
They had sworn out the statements to each other at a private event,
not officials of any court and couldn't even be brought up on perjury
charges. Kerry rose to power by defaming the soldiers and sailors he
had served with.
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So, do you support torture?
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Don't pretend to be more moral. You're not.
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I'm just trying to get a feel of your
position. My military friends don't like the current administration.
They serve the country they love. They are waiting for a change.
When you start openning your eyes you will see the disservice
you are doing to our country by not aknowledging wrong doing
where it exists even if done by servicemen and that reporting
wrong doing is the right thing to do.
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
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The part where he claimed to be in Cambodia on Xmas eve, listening to
President Nixon say on the radio that there were no US troops in
Cambodia. The event was, "seared - SEARED!" into his mind, he claimed
some years later on the Senate floor. Probleim:
- Kerry was in Vietnam for 4 months between 1968 and early 1969. Nixon
didn't take office until January 20th, 1969. There's no record of him
saying anything about "troops in Cambodia" before he took office.
- There really were no troops in Cambodia at that time. There were
waterways that crossed over between Cambodia and Vietnam but these
were all mapped and the only ones big enough for a Swift boat to pass
through had Big Wooden Pilings driven into them to prevent large boats
from crossing. It would have been physically impossible for Kerry to
have taken his boat across the border. Most everyone in his unit
recalls that he was stationed 20 miles *inside* Vietnam over Christmas
1969.
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What's your rank soldier?
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If only soldiers are qualified to talk about war then Barack Obama
isn't qualified to shine McCain's shoes. You really don't want to go
down that path.
--
"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken
line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the
audience here today -- "
- from Obama's 2008 Memorial Day address,
aka the "I See Dead People!" speech.
Update: "I am not going to denounce this church [Trinity],
it is not a church worthy of denouncing."
- A clearly rattled Obama, asked by a reporter if he was
going to criticize comments at his church that finally
forced him to resign from it. This guy is supposed to be
a brilliant orator? See the video at
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/05/obama-gives-up-trinity-church.html |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Jul 4, 2:10 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Jul 4, 4:56 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 4, 12:04 pm, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:54 pm, forbisga...@msn.com wrote:
On Jul 3, 11:10 am, Daniel <sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 3, 10:43 am, retrogro...@comcast.net wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:32:22 -0700 (PDT), Daniel
sabot12...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not only are you libtards trying to disqualify McCain, you are once
again smearing a soldier.
LOL. This from the party that invented swift boating and attacked Max
Cleland as "unpatriotic"?
LOL. Go away you slimey dog.
Swiftboating? You mean exposing Kerry for the fraud he is?
What a joke. Saying that being shot down doesn't qualify one
as prsident is "smearing a soldier" but making up stories about
someone's war record is "exposing ... the fraud".
Kerrys military "service" is most certainly a fraud. But then, Kerry
has a history of smearing soldiers, including those of us that
currently serve.
Strange, I don't remember any such activity.
Should we start with his throwing his "hard earned" medals, or his
saying that soldiers are stuck in Iraq because they are stupid?
Winter Soldier?
What are you talking about?
So, do you support torture? I'm just trying to get a feel of your
position. My military friends don't like the current administration.
They serve the country they love. They are waiting for a change.
You don't have any military friends, the military is Republican by a
vast majority.
When you start openning your eyes you will see the disservice
you are doing to our country by not aknowledging wrong doing
where it exists even if done by servicemen and that reporting
wrong doing is the right thing to do.
What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
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How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
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What's your rank soldier?
Staff Sergeant, what's yours?
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I quit as a tech sarge in 1976. OK, only 6 years. During the war
they guys were military. After the war it was advanced boyscouts.
One time during an inspection I got written up for "almost being in
violation of 3510." When the first shirt walked out the door I
muttered
"Jeez." He heard me, came back in and sent me to the commander.
A few weeks later they wanted me to reup again. While I look back
and wish I had stayed in I'm not sure I could have survived the mickey
mouse routines.
One of my friends just got one of the highest non-combat awards.
He's telling me they can't wait for the next president to come in.
His issues are things like turnaround, poor armor, etc. Since he
grew up on military bases he knew the military. He's become quite
liberal now. He says their fighting not for the president but for the
other guys out there in the military. If he wasn't out there doing
his job someone else would have to be. He says he's only going
to stay to 25. Maybe things will get better once we get a new
administration. He a good kid. |
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Mitchell Holman
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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David Hartung <d_hartung@comcast.net> wrote in
news:J6KdnTgXOpTY5vPVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com:
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dead kennedy haters wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't
"ordered the
bombs to fall"
.
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the comments
.
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether Sen.
John McCain's military experience qualified him to be
commander-in-chief.
.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said it.
McCain was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type of
executive miltary experience is crucial.
.
OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are now
insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum requirement
to serve in the White House, why are they running a candidate who's
never served a minute in his life?
Different rules apply to Democrats.
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Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
Mitchell Holman
Kerry:
1 Silver Star
1 Bronze Star
3 Awards of the Purple Heart
1 Combat Action Ribbon
1 Navy Presidential Unit Citation
1 Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon
1 National Defense Service Medal
1 Vietnam Service Medal
1 Vietnam Campaign Medal
Bush: 0
Cheney: 0
Rove: 0
Wolfowitz: 0
Limbaugh: 0
Delay: 0
Frist: 0
Hastert: 0
Lott: 0
O'Reilly: 0
Hannity: 0 |
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Mitchell Holman
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> wrote in
news:7d71060c-6b0c-405e-b8a6-33f16f9059dc@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
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On Jul 4, 8:19 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
David Hartung <d_hart...@comcast.net> wrote
innews:J6KdnTgXOpTY5vPVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com:
dead kennedy haters wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's
executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't
"ordered the
bombs to fall"
.
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the
comments
.
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether
Sen. John McCain's military experience qualified him to be
commander-in-chief.
.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said
it. McCain was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type
of executive miltary experience is crucial.
.
OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are
now insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum
requirement to serve in the White House, why are they running a
candidate who's never served a minute in his life?
Different rules apply to Democrats.
Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
Mitchell Holman
.
McCain's war record:
# Silver Star
# Legion of Merit
# Bronze Star Medal
# Purple Heart
# Distinguished Flying Cross
# Prisoner of War Medal
# National Defense Service Medal
# Vietnam Service Medal
# Vietnam Campaign Medal
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Kerry:
1 Silver Star
1 Bronze Star
3 Awards of the Purple Heart
1 Combat Action Ribbon
1 Navy Presidential Unit Citation
1 Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon
1 National Defense Service Medal
1 Vietnam Service Medal
1 Vietnam Campaign Medal
So by your standard since Kerry has more medals
than McCain he is more qualified to be president? |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
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"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> wrote in
news:7d71060c-6b0c-405e-b8a6-33f16f9059dc@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
On Jul 4, 8:19 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
David Hartung <d_hart...@comcast.net> wrote
innews:J6KdnTgXOpTY5vPVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com:
dead kennedy haters wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's
executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't
"ordered the
bombs to fall"
.
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the
comments
.
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether
Sen. John McCain's military experience qualified him to be
commander-in-chief.
.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said
it. McCain was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type
of executive miltary experience is crucial.
.
OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are
now insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum
requirement to serve in the White House, why are they running a
candidate who's never served a minute in his life?
Different rules apply to Democrats.
Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
Mitchell Holman
.
McCain's war record:
# Silver Star
# Legion of Merit
# Bronze Star Medal
# Purple Heart
# Distinguished Flying Cross
# Prisoner of War Medal
# National Defense Service Medal
# Vietnam Service Medal
# Vietnam Campaign Medal
Kerry:
1 Silver Star
1 Bronze Star
3 Awards of the Purple Heart
1 Combat Action Ribbon
1 Navy Presidential Unit Citation
1 Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon
1 National Defense Service Medal
1 Vietnam Service Medal
1 Vietnam Campaign Medal
So by your standard since Kerry has more medals
than McCain he is more qualified to be president?
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Give it up Bill, Holman is determined to look like a fool this evening. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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David Hartung <d_hartung@comcast.net> wrote in
news:m96dnbqFE4oabPPVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com:
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> wrote in
news:7d71060c-6b0c-405e-b8a6-33f16f9059dc@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
On Jul 4, 8:19 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
David Hartung <d_hart...@comcast.net> wrote
innews:J6KdnTgXOpTY5vPVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com:
dead kennedy haters wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?
iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's
executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't
"ordered the
bombs to fall"
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d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the
comments
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(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether
Sen. John McCain's military experience qualified him to be
commander-in-chief.
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Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said
it. McCain was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type
of executive miltary experience is crucial.
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OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are
now insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum
requirement to serve in the White House, why are they running a
candidate who's never served a minute in his life?
Different rules apply to Democrats.
Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
Mitchell Holman
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McCain's war record:
# Silver Star
# Legion of Merit
# Bronze Star Medal
# Purple Heart
# Distinguished Flying Cross
# Prisoner of War Medal
# National Defense Service Medal
# Vietnam Service Medal
# Vietnam Campaign Medal
Kerry:
1 Silver Star
1 Bronze Star
3 Awards of the Purple Heart
1 Combat Action Ribbon
1 Navy Presidential Unit Citation
1 Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon
1 National Defense Service Medal
1 Vietnam Service Medal
1 Vietnam Campaign Medal
So by your standard since Kerry has more medals
than McCain he is more qualified to be president?
Give it up Bill, Holman is determined to look like a fool this evening.
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Another notestream Hartung jumps into just to
run away from when one of his claims is challenged.
Mitchell Holman
"In the 7 years that Bush has been in office, the economy has,
for the most part, grown and unemployment has been down."
David Hartung, 2/10/08. In fact unemployment has gone up since
Bush took office. |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:07:18 -0500, Mitchell Holman
<Noemail@comcast.com> wrote:
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David Hartung <d_hartung@comcast.net> wrote in
news:m96dnbqFE4oabPPVnZ2dnUVZ_qbinZ2d@comcast.com:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
"bvallely@aol.com" <bvallely@aol.com> wrote in
news:7d71060c-6b0c-405e-b8a6-33f16f9059dc@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
On Jul 4, 8:19 pm, Mitchell Holman <Noem...@comcast.com> wrote:
David Hartung <d_hart...@comcast.net> wrote
innews:J6KdnTgXOpTY5vPVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@comcast.com:
dead kennedy haters wrote:
On Jun 30, 2:21 am, "baxter" <1...@net.com> wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/29/clark.mccain/?
iref=mpstoryview
Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain qualified
a.. Story Highlights
b.. Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark questions John McCain's
executive
experience
c.. In "Face the Nation" interview, Clark says McCain hasn't
"ordered the
bombs to fall"
.
d.. McCain campaign calls for Barack Obama to condemn the
comments
.
(CNN) -- Retired U.S. Gen. Wesley Clark, a supporter of Democratic
presidential candidate Barack Obama, on Sunday questioned whether
Sen. John McCain's military experience qualified him to be
commander-in-chief.
.
Clark makes an excellent point and I'm glad someone finally said
it. McCain was never the one ordering the bombs to fall. That type
of executive miltary experience is crucial.
.
OK, so let's see if I've got this straight - if the Democrats are
now insisting that military COMMAND experience in the minimum
requirement to serve in the White House, why are they running a
candidate who's never served a minute in his life?
Different rules apply to Democrats.
Indeed. Any veteran the democrats nominate will have his
reputation smeared by unproven innuendo and gossip, but even
questioning a Republican who served is treason and proof that
you "hate America".
Mitchell Holman
.
McCain's war record:
# Silver Star
# Legion of Merit
# Bronze Star Medal
# Purple Heart
# Distinguished Flying Cross
# Prisoner of War Medal
# National Defense Service Medal
# Vietnam Service Medal
# Vietnam Campaign Medal
Kerry:
1 Silver Star
1 Bronze Star
3 Awards of the Purple Heart
1 Combat Action Ribbon
1 Navy Presidential Unit Citation
1 Navy Unit Commendation Ribbon
1 National Defense Service Medal
1 Vietnam Service Medal
1 Vietnam Campaign Medal
So by your standard since Kerry has more medals
than McCain he is more qualified to be president?
Give it up Bill, Holman is determined to look like a fool this evening.
Another notestream Hartung jumps into just to
run away from when one of his claims is challenged.
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And Mitchie walks into his own hypocrisy again.
Here's Mitchie claiming that it's more logical to him that one person
posts under a 150 different names rather than 150 people using one
common obvious anonymous name:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/1cb8109c5707ac1c
Here's a request that Mitchie back up his silliness:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/e91a94f3cc3d0c97
Here's Mitchie's response <crickets.wav)
Here's a quote of Mitchie claiming I've posted under several specific
identities:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/df59b828375c8d1e?dmode=source
Here's Mitchie's proof <crickets.wav>
Oh look, Mitchie gets caught in another lie...
Here's Mitchie Holman claiming he doesn't read Robw's posts:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.republicans/msg/108506408...
And here's Mitchie Holman *responding* to Robw. Wonder how he can
reply if he doesn't read the posts.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/e35c2213505fb89f?dmod...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/msg/ecd040790838689c?dmod...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/5f3a15c281ba...
Let see, will Mitchie
1. Start talking about handles (again)
2. Post another uncited quote (again)
3. Run away and hide (again) |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject: Re: Clark: Getting 'shot down in plane' doesn't make McCain |
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What part of Kerry's service was a fraud?
Where should I begin? Maybe with his bogus Purple Hearts?
How many bogus Purple Hearts have you seen issued recently?
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None, what's your point?
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Does the military really go out issuing them like candy?
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The fact is that Kerrys Purple Hearts are a fraud, used merely to get
himself out of Vietnam. Deal with it.
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What's your rank soldier?
Staff Sergeant, what's yours?
I quit as a tech sarge in 1976. OK, only 6 years. During the war
they guys were military. After the war it was advanced boyscouts.
One time during an inspection I got written up for "almost being in
violation of 3510." When the first shirt walked out the door I
muttered
"Jeez." He heard me, came back in and sent me to the commander.
A few weeks later they wanted me to reup again. While I look back
and wish I had stayed in I'm not sure I could have survived the mickey
mouse routines.
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Yeah, you sound like the epitome of a libtard who thought being in the
military was for you. Who wold have thought that the military would
expect discipline from a soldier?
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One of my friends just got one of the highest non-combat awards.
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Which would be?
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He's telling me they can't wait for the next president to come in.
His issues are things like turnaround, poor armor, etc.
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Poor armor.....That's priceless.
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Since he
grew up on military bases he knew the military.
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Just because someone grows up on a military installation doesn't mean
they know jack shit about the military.
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He's become quite
liberal now. He says their fighting not for the president but for the
other guys out there in the military. If he wasn't out there doing
his job someone else would have to be. He says he's only going
to stay to 25. Maybe things will get better once we get a new
administration. He a good kid.
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LOL...You're hilarious. He didn't "become" liberal, he has always been
a libtard loser, just like you. |
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