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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: Re: LIBBY FOUND GUILTY |
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"685 days till the Shrub is gone" <mr_antone@> wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:19:34 -0500, "abracadabra" <abra@hotmail.com
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"Gandalf Grey" <gandalfgrey@infectedmail.com> wrote in message
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Libby guilty on 4 of 5 counts in CIA leak trial
So Libby will be pardoned just after the 2008 elections?
On Xmas Eve.
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Thanksgiving would be even more ironic. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming labeled a 'scam' |
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"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Steve Dufour" <stevejdufour@yahoo.com> wrote in message
LONDON -- With a packet of claims that are almost certain to defy
conventional wisdom, a television documentary to be aired in Britain
this week condemns man-made global warming as a myth that has become
"the biggest scam of modern times."
The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change
Naomi Oreskes*
Policy-makers and the media, particularly in the United States,
frequently
assert that climate science is highly uncertain. Some have used this
as an
argument against adopting strong measures to reduce greenhouse gas
emissions. For example, while discussing a major U.S. Environmental
Protection Agency report on the risks of climate change, then-EPA
administrator Christine Whitman argued, "As [the report] went through
review, there was less consensus on the science and conclusions on
climate
change" (1). Some corporations whose revenues might be adversely
affected
by controls on carbon dioxide emissions have also alleged major
uncertainties in the science (2). Such statements suggest that there
might
be substantive disagreement in the scientific community about the
reality
of anthropogenic climate change. This is not the case.
The scientific consensus is clearly expressed in the reports of the
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). Created in 1988 by
the
World Meteorological Organization and the United Nations
Environmental
Programme, IPCC's purpose is to evaluate the state of climate science
as a
basis for informed policy action, primarily on the basis of
peer-reviewed
and published scientific literature (3). In its most recent
assessment,
IPCC states unequivocally that the consensus of scientific opinion is
that
Earth's climate is being affected by human activities: "Human
activities
... are modifying the concentration of atmospheric constituents ...
that
absorb or scatter radiant energy. ... [M]ost of the observed warming
over
the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in
greenhouse
gas concentrations" [p. 21 in (4)].
IPCC is not alone in its conclusions. In recent years, all major
scientific bodies in the United States whose members' expertise bears
directly on the matter have issued similar statements. For example,
the
National Academy of Sciences report, Climate Change Science: An
Analysis
of Some Key Questions, begins: "Greenhouse gases are accumulating in
Earth's atmosphere as a result of human activities, causing surface
air
temperatures and subsurface ocean temperatures to rise" [p. 1 in
(5)]. The
report explicitly asks whether the IPCC assessment is a fair summary
of
professional scientific thinking, and answers yes: "The IPCC's
conclusion
that most of the observed warming of the last 50 years is likely to
have
been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations accurately
reflects the current thinking of the scientific community on this
issue"
[p. 3 in (5)].
Others agree. The American Meteorological Society (6), the American
Geophysical Union (7), and the American Association for the
Advancement of
Science (AAAS) all have issued statements in recent years concluding
that
the evidence for human modification of climate is compelling ( .
The drafting of such reports and statements involves many
opportunities
for comment, criticism, and revision, and it is not likely that they
would
diverge greatly from the opinions of the societies' members.
Nevertheless,
they might downplay legitimate dissenting opinions. That hypothesis
was
tested by analyzing 928 abstracts, published in refereed scientific
journals between 1993 and 2003, and listed in the ISI database with
the
keywords "climate change" (9).
The 928 papers were divided into six categories: explicit endorsement
of
the consensus position, evaluation of impacts, mitigation proposals,
methods, paleoclimate analysis, and rejection of the consensus
position.
Of all the papers, 75% fell into the first three categories, either
explicitly or implicitly accepting the consensus view; 25% dealt with
methods or paleoclimate, taking no position on current anthropogenic
climate change. Remarkably, none of the papers disagreed with the
consensus position.
Admittedly, authors evaluating impacts, developing methods, or
studying
paleoclimatic change might believe that current climate change is
natural.
However, none of these papers argued that point.
This analysis shows that scientists publishing in the peer-reviewed
literature agree with IPCC, the National Academy of Sciences, and the
public statements of their professional societies. Politicians,
economists, journalists, and others may have the impression of
confusion,
disagreement, or discord among climate scientists, but that
impression is
incorrect.
The scientific consensus might, of course, be wrong. If the history
of
science teaches anything, it is humility, and no one can be faulted
for
failing to act on what is not known. But our grandchildren will
surely
blame us if they find that we understood the reality of anthropogenic
climate change and failed to do anything about it.
Many details about climate interactions are not well understood, and
there
are ample grounds for continued research to provide a better basis
for
understanding climate dynamics. The question of what to do about
climate
change is also still open. But there is a scientific consensus on the
reality of anthropogenic climate change. Climate scientists have
repeatedly tried to make this clear. It is time for the rest of us to
listen.
References and Notes
A. C. Revkin, K. Q. Seelye, New York Times, 19 June 2003, A1.
S. van den Hove, M. Le Menestrel, H.-C. de Bettignies, Climate
Policy 2
(1), 3 (2003).
See www.ipcc.ch/about/about.htm.
J. J. McCarthy et al., Eds., Climate Change 2001: Impacts,
Adaptation,
and Vulnerability (Cambridge Univ. Press, Cambridge, 2001).
National Academy of Sciences Committee on the Science of Climate
Change,
Climate Change Science: An Analysis of Some Key Questions (National
Academy Press, Washington, DC, 2001).
American Meteorological Society, Bull. Am. Meteorol. Soc. 84, 508
(2003).
American Geophysical Union, Eos 84 (51), 574 (2003).
See www.ourplanet.com/aaas/pages/atmos02.html.
The first year for which the database consistently published
abstracts
was 1993. Some abstracts were deleted from our analysis because,
although the authors had put "climate change" in their key words,
the
paper was not about climate change.
This essay is excerpted from the 2004 George Sarton Memorial
Lecture,
"Consensus in science: How do we know we're not wrong," presented
at the
AAAS meeting on 13 February 2004. I am grateful to AAAS and the
History
of Science Society for their support of this lectureship; to my
research
assistants S. Luis and G. Law; and to D. C. Agnew, K. Belitz, J. R.
Fleming, M. T. Greene, H. Leifert, and R. C. J. Somerville for
helpful
discussions.
10.1126/science.1103618
So much the 21 page summary let's see the actual 2100 page science report. |
That the IPCC summary
is based on. Since they are not connected to the UN who started thier
global tax scam in the first place.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Raising the minimum wage destroys jobs |
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Beal's at bealrabbitslayer@hotmail.com wisdom:
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So why didn't a single Republican support
Clinton's effort to reduce the deficit?
You mean his tax increase? Because it was a tax increase. Duh.
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Whatever happened to the Contract with America's Balanced Budget
Amendment?
Just curious.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Raising the minimum wage destroys jobs |
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Pedro Sanchez's at Dr.PedroSanchez@yahoo.com wisdom:
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A national sales tax of around 27%, exclusions for medical care,
health care insurance, food, a define amount of clothing per year,
dental costs, etc. You'd only pay the national sales tax on items that
do not tend to PUNISH the poor. This would EASILY create the same or
greater tax revenues for our government.
BTW, if you think 27% sales tax is too high then have you calculated
what you pay NOW? Most people pay a income tax federally, state income
tax, state sales tax, gas tax [local, state and federal] and
medicare/social security tax, payroll tax, and other taxes on things
like a phone bill/cable bill, it is an insane number of taxes. All
these current taxes are FAR HIGHER than a flat national sales tax
would ever dream to be.
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My state and local sales taxes are already at 6%, so you are advocating a
33% tax on all goods?
Gee... Mexico and Canada would prolly like this. If I needed a car, I
could fly down to Mexico and drive back with a $20,000 car and save what,
$6000???
That's a hell of a vacation!
And what if you are low-balling the 27%, and it's actually more like
34%... so I am at a 40% sales tax? Fuck me in the ass... no thanx!
The mafia would be very supportive of the "Fair Tax." The black market
would prolly be more lucrative than selling drugs.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:07 pm Post subject: Re: Communist Thug Murtha |
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Let me prove WF Peifer is stupid.
1,Dope just made some make some typo errors.Does that mean he is illiterate
as question by WF?
2,John MUrtha is a laughing stock to the world.You must be living in caves
for a very long time.
Just because he supported small business and veterans mean he is a good
guy,then Bush deliver the entire Iraqis at the sacrifice of American lives
must meant that Bush is greatest.
Bush spend alot for small and big businesses and Bush supported all
businesses...so must is a terrific good guy.
"WF Peifer" <WFPeifer@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Dope" <HarryIsACommie@aol.com> wrote in message
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John Murtha is the enemy of the United States Of America and is
working
hand in hand with anti-American war groups. Murtha is an enemy to our
troops
harms way!
First, Murtha's no Communist. Not that communism has a damned thing to do
with any of the issues we're facing these days, but Murtha's record
reflects
support for uniformed troops and veterans (he's spent years advocating for
pay and benefit increases that his Republican counterparts have routinely
opposed) and also reflects support for small businesses.
Secondly, you got the description of the groups Murtha is working
hand-in-hand with all bass ackwards. It's American anti-war groups.
There's nothing anti-American about opposing illegal and unjustified wars
that kill thousands of our own and hundreds of thousands of our "enemies",
who are only our enemies because a power-mad President doesn't have the
balls to go after the REAL enemies . . . the ones who supported and
financed
the attacks against us on 9/11/01. In fact, Dumbya has been photographed
walking hand-in-hand in the Rose Garden with the source of al Qaeda's
money.
Finally, your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Is English your
second language, or are you just illiterate?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: Lets debate it in Public! |
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"David Johnston" <david@block.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:31:10 -0600, <Joseph> wrote:
But no doubt there are some good women left in the USA.
How many? Five? Six?
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Well, if you cannot find one, my best advice as to which Slut, Adulteress,
Prostitute, or Lesbian, to try to mate with, is try to find one that don't
want to charge you anything for it, and don't buy her any drinks, or Cocaine
or Heroin, to try to get some. The ones that accept that kind of offer are
much better than the others. And it is much easer to actually build a real
relationship with them.
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WF Peifer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Communist Thug Murtha |
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"FRANKIE LEE" <phebelee@singnet.com.sg> wrote in message
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Let me prove WF Peifer is stupid.
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You're trying to prove that I'm stupid by being even stupider than the idiot
(appropriately named - "Dope") who can't string half a dozen words together
to make a coherent statement? Good luck with that.
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1,Dope just made some make some typo errors.Does that mean he is
illiterate
as question by WF?
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Yes, when the "typo errors" consist of leaving out at least four or five
words that would be necessary to make the sentence make some sense. And, do
you always talk like a caveman, or did you learn that trick in GOP
Leadership School?
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2,John MUrtha is a laughing stock to the world.You must be living in caves
for a very long time.
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Wrong again, bozo. Murtha polls higher than Bush everywhere in the world,
with the possible exception of Crawford, Texas. And even Crawford is
starting to laugh at the REAL laughing stock . . . their very own village
idiot.
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Just because he supported small business and veterans mean he is a good
guy,then Bush deliver the entire Iraqis at the sacrifice of American lives
must meant that Bush is greatest.
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I didn't say Murtha was a good guy just because he supported small
businesses and veterans. I said that by supporting small businesses he was
obviously no Communist (to whom small business is anathema) and that by
supporting veterans he was NOT any sort of enemy to our troops. And Bush
delivering Iraqis certainly doesn't make him the greatest. Not that he's
actually delivered Iraqis. Pizzas, maybe. But not Iraqis. He just removed
secular Saddam and replaced him with a government that is a pro-Iranian
Islamic Republic. Great for Islamic fundamentalists, but not so great for
America.
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Bush spend alot for small and big businesses and Bush supported all
businesses...so must is a terrific good guy.
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Bush hasn't done squat for small businesses. He's done a lot for big
businesses, but the small businesses are getting squeezed out by the big
businesses that are getting nearly all the tax breaks and lucrative
government contracts. Unless, of course, you consider Halliburton and
Wal-Mart to be "small businesses". But if you believe that, then you're
even stupider than you seem, which is hard to do.
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"WF Peifer" <WFPeifer@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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"Harry Dope" <HarryIsACommie@aol.com> wrote in message
news:45da31d5$0$28119$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
John Murtha is the enemy of the United States Of America and is
working
hand in hand with anti-American war groups. Murtha is an enemy to our
troops
harms way!
First, Murtha's no Communist. Not that communism has a damned thing to
do
with any of the issues we're facing these days, but Murtha's record
reflects
support for uniformed troops and veterans (he's spent years advocating
for
pay and benefit increases that his Republican counterparts have
routinely
opposed) and also reflects support for small businesses.
Secondly, you got the description of the groups Murtha is working
hand-in-hand with all bass ackwards. It's American anti-war groups.
There's nothing anti-American about opposing illegal and unjustified
wars
that kill thousands of our own and hundreds of thousands of our
"enemies",
who are only our enemies because a power-mad President doesn't have the
balls to go after the REAL enemies . . . the ones who supported and
financed
the attacks against us on 9/11/01. In fact, Dumbya has been
photographed
walking hand-in-hand in the Rose Garden with the source of al Qaeda's
money.
Finally, your last sentence makes no sense whatsoever. Is English your
second language, or are you just illiterate?
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Vendicar Decarian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Global warming labeled a 'scam' |
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"David Morgan (MAMS)" <findme@m-a-m-s.comC/Odm> wrote in message
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"Vendicar Decarian" <BushIsATraitor@hotmail.com> wrote in message...
Reduce your consumption to 1/11th the current value and you we won't
need
to force you to do so. Refuse and we will tax your economy. Refuse the
tax
and we will place trade sanctions on your goods and services. Refuse to
abide by those sanctions and we will destroy your cities.
Are you channeling Dick Cheney?
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Rethinking birthright citizenship some more (for the lan |
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"Tim Crowley" <timmyturmoil@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 6, 5:26 pm, "The Pervert" <perver...@spambad.yahoo.com> wrote:
For the record, I strongly oppose illegal immigration from *anywhere*
Me too.
and any attempt at amnesty for illegals.
Depends on what you mean by amnesty. illegal immigration is a crime, I
think people should pay the price for the crime, I don't think that
price should equal never having the opportunity to work in the country
legally.
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If the crime is that they entered illegally and thus shouldn't be here, then
the punishment should be that they leave here and get to the very end of he
line in trying to get back in. Simple, really. Illegals should not
reeceive a penny in public welfare benefits, or in-state tuition benefits.
Any assets that they amassed while here should be forfeit. Any anchor
babies either stay here without their illegal parents, or forfeit their
anchor citizenship.
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I also support strong penalties for
employers knowingly hiring illegals and those, like certain church
groups,
who aid and shield them.
I "might" if we had a comprehensive immigration policy in place. One
that was realistic given our need for labor and other considerations.
This issue can only be looked at in a comprehensive manner that takes
into account the need of all stakeholders.
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Break the law and pay a price. You would reward those who break the law. I
doisagree with that. There are people willing to work or trained to work.
Okay, so wages for legal workers might rise. The problem with higher wages
for legal, trained workers is...?
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Such churches should lose their tax-exempt status
(then again, I don't think *any* church should be tax free)
I agree that all churches should pay taxes on income.
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Any donations they get are income.
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and assessed significant fines, the organizers doing jail time. I hope
there
is a MAJOR backlash against institutions encouraging business with
illegals
(i.e., Bank of America)
I've never seen an ounce of proof that BofA encourages people breaking
the law. If you have proof you should provide it to law enforcement.
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I'd suggest that you not play dumb, but I don't believe you're playing. I
do believe you're being dishonest, but your dishonesty is nothing new.
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and that they experience significant financial consequences for
their contemptible actions.
My guess is that you might likely be engaged in illegal activities re
immigration too, so I would hope you would be busted as well.
yawn.
(It would be a bonus if you resisted arrest.)
yawn.
You were doing good, for a minute, then you ruined it, why?
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After the hateful and lying bullshit you've posted, even my extensive
vocabulary cannot find words to describe how much I could not possibly care
less about how you feel about what I post. |
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The Pervert
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: Re: Rethinking birthright citizenship some more (for the lan |
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"Seth Hammond" <lesliesethhammond@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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That's 'Mr. Hammond' to you, punk. Now run tell yer little friends you've
actually spoken with Phxbrd.
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Dude, you're in your seventies and that's great. But isn't it time you
started acting like a adult? |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: ABC News Exposed on Right Wing Smear Attempt on Gore |
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:02:14 GMT, "Pasty Patsy" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:
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... can't explain... its [sic] OKAY to be an Energy PIG ...
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You support wasting American resources because
you hate the USA.
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 14:56:21 GMT, "Pasty Patsy" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:
If you weren't really stupid you'd already know.
You're a lot more wasteful than others who don't
participate in your death kult.
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:03:27 GMT, "Patsy" <Crazy_Bastard@Yahoo.com> wrote:
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Then its OKAY to be an Energy PIG ...
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You support burning up your grandchildren's
oil with the illegal invasion of Iraq. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: ABC News Exposed on Right Wing Smear Attempt on Gore |
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 12:52:50 -0600, " Kurt Lochner" <kurt_lochner@NOSPAMhotmail.com>
wrote:
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Parrot Gametes writhed in denials when:
* US *> wrote:
If you weren't really stupid you'd already know.
You're a lot more wasteful than others who don't
participate in your death kult.
Then its OKAY to be an Energy PIG ...
You support burning up your grandchildren's
oil with the illegal invasion of Iraq.
You can't explain.
No 'explanation' is needed, you're a coward..
Therefore you agree that its OKAY to be an Energy PIG ...
Fallacy Argument; 'circular pseudo-reasoning'..
--See subject header for details..
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Exactly. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: Most Support U.S. Guarantee of Health Care |
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:43:54 GMT, JimP <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
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... at the
asylum ...
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It's the best place for you. Obviously you can't
take care of yourself, Jimp.
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:22:38 GMT, JimPy <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
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... I didn't
think ...
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You never do. That's why you're just a duped pawn
for those who are enemies of America, Jimp.
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:01:31 GMT, JimPy <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
Nobody listens to you because you spew stupid bullshit, Jimp.
You want everyone else to have to pay for your sickness.
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:36:03 GMT, JimP <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
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...at the asylum now.
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It's your best excuse, Jimp.
You want Americans to be impoverished and sick,
and you'd never want that if you were mentally healthy.
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:17:03 GMT, JimP <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
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...to take from people ...
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You want everyone else to have to pay
for your murderousness and loyalty to
Nazism. You have no excuse for it
but your total stupidity, Jimp. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: Re: Most Support U.S. Guarantee of Health Care |
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On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 14:44:47 GMT, JimP <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
Well, something has you stupefied and filled with hate.
You don't even take proper care of yourself, Jimp.
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 05:25:37 GMT, JimP <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
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... people I despise and they're ...
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Americans.
On Tue, 06 Mar 2007 02:01:31 GMT, JimPy <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
Nobody listens to you because you spew stupid bullshit, Jimp.
You want everyone else to have to pay for your sickness.
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:36:03 GMT, JimP <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
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...at the asylum now.
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It's your best excuse, Jimp.
You want Americans to be impoverished and sick,
and you'd never want that if you were mentally healthy.
On Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:17:03 GMT, JimP <iwantnomail@nowhere.com> wrote:
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...to take from people ...
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You want everyone else to have to pay
for your murderousness and loyalty to
Nazism. You have no excuse for it
but your total stupidity, Jimp. |
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