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On Apr 29, 7:16 am, Zee <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote:
On Apr 29, 6:38 am, "Mark" <alln...@nospammindspring.com> wrote:> "Dario Western" <dariowest...@nospambigpond.com> wrote in message
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Trent,
Why did you post this message to a wrestling and Mormon newsgroup?
Why did YOU??
because once evolving from a primate to a human being..;if that is
possible....the first discovery is that the most hate that can be
conjured up is a group of people or peer group that will not admit
their evil....the evil itself is not unaceptable to the masses but the
denial of it is unacceptable...ref...pastor wright and obama...the
militant terrorist suicide bombers fighting for destruction of
everyone but their kind.....stalin...hitler...etc.....does anyone
think that hitler or stalin would ever repent....it is the
unrelentling attitude of the nudist that is prevalent and their overt
desires to aggress and force their nakedness on the rest of
society....Dario is cut from the same cloth that Anna Nikki and i are
cut from ..knowing that our beliefs are not popular and know exactly
how the non naked feel and why....but you primates until you evolve
and admit will never know.....jz
The Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, and Hari-Krishna beliefs are not popular,
but in a free world, they have a right to practice them. Most non
Hari-Krishnas likely don't relish seeing the Hari Krishnas walking
down the street and chanting and doing their dance, but it is the Hari-
Krishna's Just right, and Just Freedom to do so. Nakedness is not
being "forced" on anyone by merely walking down the street. Unless
your person or property is violated (or endangered), nothing is being
forced on you, and you have a Just right to Freedom whether you
"jon_zee," and other Americans, and other people throughout the world
recognize it or not, you have a Just right to Freedom unless you are
violating (or endangering) someone's persons or property including
public property, or engaged in commerce, which given the exploitative
nature of which may Justly be regulated, though not prohibited,
through product bundling, quality controls, and advertising
regulations, and possibly though not surely other ways I have not
thought of.
Thus, you surely have the Just right to commit non-dangerous, non-
commercial acts in public. This is Freedom. The line may not be
drawn more strictly than this, or must we violate the principle of
Freedom entirely and may as well do away with it, leaving the future
to a single prevailing ideology and religion, limiting all speeches
and actions to those of the past, for certainly once something is
outlawed it would be extinct and nearly impossible to gain a majority
support for since they would not even be able to try or see or
practice it at all. Save the argument I am presenting here, and such
is our current oppressed state.
The only thing I think about "Anna" is that perhaps she is denigrating
sex and promoting nonsexual nudity in an attempt to protect nudism
from the anti-sex bigots and persecutors in this world. I don't know
if such a tactic is well founded, but she seems maybe too much a voice
of the prejudice Nazi crowd to seriously be taking such a tactic.
Leave your dress and conduct codes to private property owners who may
eject any who violate them. No country may be called free which could
require you to wear a Burka in public, but apparently that is a
possibility requiring only 50% of the voters in the United States (or
less than 50% as the minority of elected dictators can pass the law).
Thus we see, Democracy is merely a means of political change, and
Freedom from past governance, but that it is in no way an
establishment or ensurer of Freedom. Freedom is a principle much more
important than Democracy, it is a principle to be both advanced in the
minds of the people of this planet, and established in the foundations
of any Just political system which governs them. The United States is
one of the biggest human rights violators on the planet due to its
disregard for Freedom in areas of drugs, arms, and sex. It has not
been the bastion of Freedom it was supposedly conceived to be.
American's Just rights and thus their prosperity, wealth, and
livelihood are violated all over the country - as cities may
apparently legally do thing such as ban the drinking of beer on the
beach - taking the common citizen's wealth and prosperity, and taxing
them to spend more money policing and jailing offenders. Such is the
despotic state of the tyranny of our nation today. As seen with the
drug war this vicious cycle increases true crime, undermines the
justice system, and leads to more lawlessness and criminal
lifestyles. The USA puts more people in prison per capita than any
nation in the world besides China, and thinks to call itself free
compared to such fallen Communist Empires and Theocracies which may
respect neither free speech nor Freedom of religion, nor the rights of
the accused - nor the right to acquire property, and may even force
people to work like slaves - though I'm not sure how things work/
worked in communist countries. And of those rights, none at all are
protected by Democracy, they all are protected by the insufficient
Constitution (specifically the Bill of Rights) which requires 2/3rd of
both houses of Congress and 3/4th's of all state's legislatures to
change, and neither has it been recognized to my knowledge to protect
your right to property as taxes could be raised to 100% and the nation
made Communist. Allying yourself with a lesser evil may make sense at
times, but the truth is you wish to see both evils fall or be
corrected - we can only hope for the nation's sake the latter comes to
pass.
So the nation's not free, and to the extent it is free, it is not free
because of Democracy but because of the Bill of Rights. Democracy
does not ensure Freedom, it is merely a means of political change.
Democracy is merely a means of freeing ourselves from the dictators
who ruled us in the past and electing new dictators without having to
resort to war. The Bill of Rights ensures Freedom and is either not
recognized or not extensive enough.
There are 5 means of political change:
1. Free Speech - if it is allowed
2. Democracy - if your country has it
3. Civil Disobedience - if the penalties are not too harsh - sucks
nonetheless because you can be penalized
4. Targeted Assassinations
5. War - nearly always civil war
As you can see, Free Speech and Democracy are the most palatable.
Free Speech and Democracy allow us to change the government without
war by appealing to the rulers or replacing them. The other three
methods cost lives but are sometimes necessary.
And those who violate minority freedom are prejudice evil lying
bigots, doing satanism and sin, jacking for nothing, taking people's
unalienable freedoms away.
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Democracy is just an elected dictatorship. The elected
representatives are no better than any old dictators, and will oppress
you just as much as any old dictator. The only difference in America
is the Bill of Rights which is protected by the separation of powers
in the structure of our government between the judicial and executive/
legislative branches of government and the separation of power between
the Federal, State, County and City governments. Democracy does not
ensure freedom it is merely a means of political change of freedom
from the past dictators who may free us from past legislation.
If common dictators were constrained by a bill of rights protected by
a separation of powers, their country would be nearly as good as any
other government or Democracy with such freedoms, they would just lack
the means of political change. And a good king or dictator could self-
constrain but the next king or dictator could easily be not as good.
For instance China too has a bill of rights and more guaranteed
freedoms in its Constitution than the United States. But with no
separation of powers, its Dictators can ignore the guaranteed freedoms
completely and override them and routinely do.
It's true that in some states a majority can get an issue on the
ballot and pass a law in an election. But most laws are passed by an
elected minority. So much touting Democracy as freedom, when we do
not even have a Democracy. In any case, majority rule can be tyranny
to the other 49% of the voters, and so the theory goes, that a wise
minority of rulers might be elected. But rather as it turns out they
are just dictatorial tyrants, it seems a broader bill of rights and a
broader interpretation of a bill of rights is a better solution.
I'm the wise minority who would respect broader freedoms if elected.
In the absence of a bill of rights securing our freedom, tyranny is
given free reign. Justice is not established or at least it is not
secured - as the next elected dictator may legislate tyranny. Sin
instead becomes established as the government makes up new sins, and
commits evil upon the people in the name of righteousness.
Dictatorial tyrants spend their time establishing murder instead of
Justice. It's a question of tyranny of the majority vs. minority
rights, or majority rule vs. tyranny of the minority. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:10 pm Post subject: Re: Death to all Liberals, they deserve to be tortured and g |
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On Jul 13, 9:05 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:10:04 -0400, Viper==>Spit
mad...@stinkyliberal.gov> wrote:
I like sucking cock!
The fag from "user.aioe.org" tells the truth!!!!
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And they're gonna KICK your ASS Nov 4th! Better get ready to salute
President Obama when he's your new CinC LOL! |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: Death to all Liberals, they deserve to be tortured and g |
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Hi,
The whole point of how America become a country in the first place,
was becuase people stood up and spoke up when they didn't agree with
the government they had at the time.
It always amazes me when I think back to all the people that warned
against Iraq, and were called traitors and unpatriotic for questioning
the President.
At the end of the day if you do not agree with something you should be
free to speak out about it, at least those people can now be
remembered as right all along, although that doesnt help the 4,000
plus soldiers dead, all the money down the drain and generations of
hate we have coming towards us from the middle east.
Thanks |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: Death to all Liberals, they deserve to be tortured and g |
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On Jul 13, 6:10 am, Viper==>Spit <mad...@stinkyliberal.gov> wrote:
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charley <varric...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 12, 11:54 am, "geno4321" <eugenefk...@fuse.net> wrote:
"Matt" <matttel...@sprynet.com> wrote in message
news:63632949-95a7-4729-bc0c-423411c4e6be@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com....
On Jul 12, 6:31 am, "MioMyo" <USA_Patr...@Somewhere.com> wrote:
May God Bless your soul, Tony.......
Tony was always decent, highly intelligent, extremely articulate, fair and
artfully crafty in unhinging liberals with facts. Why then will liberals
display so much hatred for him at his passing like they do for others in
the
lime-light who are on side of the political spectrum, like Jesse Helms?
Not in the least. My condolences to the family. I may not have agreed
with
Tony, but I mostly respected him. He went far too young.
Matt
Thank Allah!
There is no such thing as Allah.
And God is a fat white bearded Southern Baptist Christian in a robe who sits
on a throne in the sky and sounds just like Jerry Falwell.
Now! Get on your knees and pray to him, you stupid peon, or he will become
angry and you will suffer his almighty wrath!
--
Death to all Liberals, they deserve to be tortured and gassed as penalty for
their hate filled ways, bitterness and refusal to love Bush and the Homeland.
I like sucking cock!
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I thought the same as you...imagine that! |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:14 pm Post subject: Re: Nudism is never wrong. |
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<gooddad@rock.com> wrote in message
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good...@rock.com wrote:
On Apr 29, 7:16 am, Zee <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote:
On Apr 29, 6:38 am, "Mark" <alln...@nospammindspring.com> wrote:
"Dario Western" <dariowest...@nospambigpond.com> wrote in message
news:xgvRj.5927$ko5.4426@news-
Trent,
Why did you post this message to a wrestling and Mormon
newsgroup?
Why did YOU??
because once evolving from a primate to a human being..;if that is
possible....the first discovery is that the most hate that can be
conjured up is a group of people or peer group that will not admit
their evil....the evil itself is not unaceptable to the masses but
the
denial of it is unacceptable...ref...pastor wright and obama...the
militant terrorist suicide bombers fighting for destruction of
everyone but their kind.....stalin...hitler...etc.....does anyone
think that hitler or stalin would ever repent....it is the
unrelentling attitude of the nudist that is prevalent and their
overt
desires to aggress and force their nakedness on the rest of
society....Dario is cut from the same cloth that Anna Nikki and i
are
cut from ..knowing that our beliefs are not popular and know
exactly
how the non naked feel and why....but you primates until you evolve
and admit will never know.....jz
The Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, and Hari-Krishna beliefs are not popular,
but in a free world, they have a right to practice them. Most non
Hari-Krishnas likely don't relish seeing the Hari Krishnas walking
down the street and chanting and doing their dance, but it is the
Hari-
Krishna's Just right, and Just Freedom to do so. Nakedness is not
being "forced" on anyone by merely walking down the street. Unless
your person or property is violated (or endangered), nothing is being
forced on you, and you have a Just right to Freedom whether you
"jon_zee," and other Americans, and other people throughout the world
recognize it or not, you have a Just right to Freedom unless you are
violating (or endangering) someone's persons or property including
public property, or engaged in commerce, which given the exploitative
nature of which may Justly be regulated, though not prohibited,
through product bundling, quality controls, and advertising
regulations, and possibly though not surely other ways I have not
thought of.
Thus, you surely have the Just right to commit non-dangerous, non-
commercial acts in public. This is Freedom. The line may not be
drawn more strictly than this, or must we violate the principle of
Freedom entirely and may as well do away with it, leaving the future
to a single prevailing ideology and religion, limiting all speeches
and actions to those of the past, for certainly once something is
outlawed it would be extinct and nearly impossible to gain a majority
support for since they would not even be able to try or see or
practice it at all. Save the argument I am presenting here, and such
is our current oppressed state.
The only thing I think about "Anna" is that perhaps she is
denigrating
sex and promoting nonsexual nudity in an attempt to protect nudism
from the anti-sex bigots and persecutors in this world. I don't know
if such a tactic is well founded, but she seems maybe too much a
voice
of the prejudice Nazi crowd to seriously be taking such a tactic.
Leave your dress and conduct codes to private property owners who may
eject any who violate them. No country may be called free which
could
require you to wear a Burka in public, but apparently that is a
possibility requiring only 50% of the voters in the United States (or
less than 50% as the minority of elected dictators can pass the law).
Thus we see, Democracy is merely a means of political change, and
Freedom from past governance, but that it is in no way an
establishment or ensurer of Freedom. Freedom is a principle much
more
important than Democracy, it is a principle to be both advanced in
the
minds of the people of this planet, and established in the
foundations
of any Just political system which governs them. The United States
is
one of the biggest human rights violators on the planet due to its
disregard for Freedom in areas of drugs, arms, and sex. It has not
been the bastion of Freedom it was supposedly conceived to be.
American's Just rights and thus their prosperity, wealth, and
livelihood are violated all over the country - as cities may
apparently legally do thing such as ban the drinking of beer on the
beach - taking the common citizen's wealth and prosperity, and taxing
them to spend more money policing and jailing offenders. Such is the
despotic state of the tyranny of our nation today. As seen with the
drug war this vicious cycle increases true crime, undermines the
justice system, and leads to more lawlessness and criminal
lifestyles. The USA puts more people in prison per capita than any
nation in the world besides China, and thinks to call itself free
compared to such fallen Communist Empires and Theocracies which may
respect neither free speech nor Freedom of religion, nor the rights
of
the accused - nor the right to acquire property, and may even force
people to work like slaves - though I'm not sure how things work/
worked in communist countries. And of those rights, none at all are
protected by Democracy, they all are protected by the insufficient
Constitution (specifically the Bill of Rights) which requires 2/3rd
of
both houses of Congress and 3/4th's of all state's legislatures to
change, and neither has it been recognized to my knowledge to protect
your right to property as taxes could be raised to 100% and the
nation
made Communist. Allying yourself with a lesser evil may make sense
at
times, but the truth is you wish to see both evils fall or be
corrected - we can only hope for the nation's sake the latter comes
to
pass.
So the nation's not free, and to the extent it is free, it is not
free
because of Democracy but because of the Bill of Rights. Democracy
does not ensure Freedom, it is merely a means of political change.
Democracy is merely a means of freeing ourselves from the dictators
who ruled us in the past and electing new dictators without having to
resort to war. The Bill of Rights ensures Freedom and is either not
recognized or not extensive enough.
There are 5 means of political change:
1. Free Speech - if it is allowed
2. Democracy - if your country has it
3. Civil Disobedience - if the penalties are not too harsh - sucks
nonetheless because you can be penalized
4. Targeted Assassinations
5. War - nearly always civil war
As you can see, Free Speech and Democracy are the most palatable.
Free Speech and Democracy allow us to change the government without
war by appealing to the rulers or replacing them. The other three
methods cost lives but are sometimes necessary.
And those who violate minority freedom are prejudice evil lying
bigots, doing satanism and sin, jacking for nothing, taking people's
unalienable freedoms away.
Democracy is just an elected dictatorship. The elected
representatives are no better than any old dictators, and will oppress
you just as much as any old dictator. The only difference in America
is the Bill of Rights which is protected by the separation of powers
in the structure of our government between the judicial and executive/
legislative branches of government and the separation of power between
the Federal, State, County and City governments. Democracy does not
ensure freedom it is merely a means of political change of freedom
from the past dictators who may free us from past legislation.
If common dictators were constrained by a bill of rights protected by
a separation of powers, their country would be nearly as good as any
other government or Democracy with such freedoms, they would just lack
the means of political change. And a good king or dictator could
self-
constrain but the next king or dictator could easily be not as good.
For instance China too has a bill of rights and more guaranteed
freedoms in its Constitution than the United States. But with no
separation of powers, its Dictators can ignore the guaranteed freedoms
completely and override them and routinely do.
It's true that in some states a majority can get an issue on the
ballot and pass a law in an election. But most laws are passed by an
elected minority. So much touting Democracy as freedom, when we do
not even have a Democracy. In any case, majority rule can be tyranny
to the other 49% of the voters, and so the theory goes, that a wise
minority of rulers might be elected. But rather as it turns out they
are just dictatorial tyrants, it seems a broader bill of rights and a
broader interpretation of a bill of rights is a better solution.
I'm the wise minority who would respect broader freedoms if elected.
In the absence of a bill of rights securing our freedom, tyranny is
given free reign. Justice is not established or at least it is not
secured - as the next elected dictator may legislate tyranny. Sin
instead becomes established as the government makes up new sins, and
commits evil upon the people in the name of righteousness.
Dictatorial tyrants spend their time establishing murder instead of
Justice. It's a question of tyranny of the majority vs. minority
rights, or majority rule vs. tyranny of the minority.
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Finally!!! Someone who also sees the truth instead of believing the
propaganda.
Phil #3 |
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:37:00 -0700, rightwinghank Skank
Defended PAJAMALOON:
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On Jul 14, 11:27 am, pyjamarama <pyjamaram...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yeah I know....
That Idiot gets on my case for a few of my harmless jokes about
negros... |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: The egalitarian society of Awra Amba |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:10:44 -0400, PJ O'Donovan <Xentinc@aol.com>
wrote:
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simple_language@yahoo.com <simple_language@yahoo.com> wrote:
source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awra_Amba
When John McCain becomes President, pigs like you will be the first to be
gassed. So if I were you, I would make my self scarce by January.
He also plans on obliterating Israel and Poland with a massive nuclear
attack.
That should take care of 70% of the faggot scum bags on the planet.
Death to you and all like you.
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Senator Gramm, shouldn't you be concentrating on the economic policies
and leave the social policies to Karl Rove.
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"Polish immigrants are causing a lot of trouble. They come to our
country and work for £2 an hour. No muslim would work for that. We
demand £3 an hour at least.. They drink alcohol and abuse their women.
DISGUSTING. I mean Poles drinking alcohol. I couldn't care less about
them abusing their women.
I heard they can cram 20 people in a single room. That is unhygenic
and I would like to know how they do it. I've only managed to cram 15
people in a single room.
Then worst of all they set up their sausage stands in the street
selling Polski pork sausages. This amounts to incitement to religious
hatred.
Get rid of them I say. They deserve extermination".......
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What do you call a Republican with a conscience?
An ex-Republican.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8827 (From Yang, AthD (h.c)
"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: Death to all Liberals, they deserve to be tortured and g |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:10:04 -0400, Viper==>Spit
<maddog@stinkyliberal.gov> wrote:
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I like sucking cock!
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The fag from "user.aioe.org" tells the truth!!!! |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: Re: Death to all Liberals, they deserve to be tortured and g |
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English-Elephant wrote:
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It always amazes me when I think back to all the people that warned
against Iraq, and were called traitors and unpatriotic for questioning
the President.
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It's easier than you think. I received thousands of email from right
wing nuts (and others) during that time.
What still amazes me is that they believed something that was known to
be untrue. If there were WMD in Iraq why couldn't the UN inspectors
find them? If Bush didn't trust the UN inspectors why did he ask for
them and if they didn't find what he wanted them to find, why didn't he
send some of our people over there to prove he was right? Bush did none
of these things and the media capitulated to his idiocy.
The lead up to war was America at its worst. Not only are we
responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands and the near
destruction of their entire infrastructure but we've destabilized the
Middle East for at least a generation. Iraq kept Iran at bay...how Iraq
can't even keep their electricity on.
--
Impeach Bush
http://zzpat.tripod.com/cvb/
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Peace is Patriotic |
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 08:40:57 -0700 (PDT), English-Elephant <mancmanc@googlemail.com>
wrote:
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Hi,
The whole point of how America become a country in the first place,
was becuase people stood up and spoke up when they didn't agree with
the government they had at the time.
It always amazes me when I think back to all the people that warned
against Iraq, and were called traitors and unpatriotic for questioning
the President.
At the end of the day if you do not agree with something you should be
free to speak out about it, at least those people can now be
remembered as right all along, although that doesnt help the 4,000
plus soldiers dead, all the money down the drain and generations of
hate we have coming towards us from the middle east.
Thanks
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| Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 9:32 pm Post subject: Re: Death to all Liberals, they deserve to be tortured and g |
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On Jul 13, 11:05 am, Patriot Games <Patr...@America.Com> wrote:
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On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 06:10:04 -0400, Viper==>Spit
mad...@stinkyliberal.gov> wrote:
I like sucking cock!
The fag from "user.aioe.org" tells the truth!!!!
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This diversity of opinion is reflective of a process that is occurring
in our country: the dis-uniting of America. You might find my article
on this topic interesting.
http://www.theviewfromoutsidemytinywindow.blogspot.com
The Inability of Our Leaders to Please (Lead?) Us
© 2008, The Institute for Applied Common Sense
As simple as we like to make things for comprehension and managerial
purposes, we all recognize the complexities associated with anything
that involves human emotion. Such is the case with respect to those
with whom we at least partially identify, and in whom we place our
hopes.
Politicians are unusual animals. The circumstances surrounding their
ascension to power virtually require that they be something less than
straightforward and transparent. They are the personification of the
Transformers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_%28toy_line
%29) toy line. They simply have far too many different individuals and
groups, not to mention interests, to please, other than their own. As
the old 70’s song indicated, “Everybody wants me to be what they want
me to be.”
Several months ago, this notion was brought home to me while
conducting one of my regular bookstore walk-throughs. Roughly two or
three times a week, I travel to the nearest Border’s or Barnes &
Noble, and aimlessly walk through the various stacks. I came across a
book about Hillary Clinton. It was actually a collection of roughly
thirty articles written by thirty different female writers, about
their perceptions of Senator Clinton, since she was catapulted on the
national scene. As I thumbed through the pages, the thing that struck
me was how virtually every writer did not like something about her,
and suggested that she had failed to perform or behave in the manner
desired by the writer, or the group which the writer felt she
represented. (I conducted a Google Book Search to locate the book,
and could not find it. However, take a look at the number of books
written about her, and just scan the summaries to get a sense of the
tone. (http://books.google.com/books?q=%22hillary+clinton
%22&lr=&sa=N&start=0)
It appears that Senator Obama faces the same dilemma. Certain
segments of the African-American population, which is clearly not
monolithic, have certain expectations of him. Various groups within
the Democratic Party have other expectations. The poor and the
disenfranchised, along with the disillusioned, probably feel that he
represents certain of their interests. The academic, intellectual
types have different thoughts.
That we had two potential Democratic candidates, who would have been
the first within their respective large subsets of our population,
presented all sorts of problems for the voting public. Lots of
folks, including former Clinton supporters, and perhaps even some
moderate Republicans and Independents, now expect Senator Obama to
champion their cause. It will not happen, and it is unrealistic to
expect it to happen. Yet, we keep pressing them, meaning all
politicians, as if they can represent the interests and desires of us
all. John McCain has been criticized for seemingly backing away from
his straight talking, maverick image, into a clone of the current
President. Quite frankly, it would be great if the candidates could
just be themselves. Those of us serving as parents to multiple
children recognize the ridiculousness of such a concept.
What also happens is that when the various groups supporting a
particular candidate have far too many expectations of their
candidate, it opens the door for the opponents of that candidate to
attack another aspect of the candidate’s platform. Every issue
becomes an easy target. Of course, we all realize that all of these
issues do not have equal weight and significance. If somehow, we as
citizens could reduce what we expect out of a candidate to perhaps
five or six primary positions, we might be able to reduce all of this
irrational slicing and dicing that is the political campaign. A
candidate focusing on those five or six primary positions might also
do the voting public a service, in that he or she would remind us to
focus on what is most important, and to avoid sweating the small
stuff.
In the very first article which appeared on this blog, we discussed
this issue in another context. In his overlooked work, The Disuniting
of America, (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n9_v44/
ai_12122328), legendary Harvard historian Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.
(http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761556940/
Schlesinger_Arthur_Meier_Jr_.html) wrote of how the pursuit of
individual self-interests by special interest groups has lead to
America’s inability to unify its efforts. He wrote of the continuing
disintegration of our society driven by the pursuit of individual
goals, not collective goals. He wrote of how the first Gulf War was
an aberration in terms of recent events which caused us to rally
together, and also resulted in the first President Bush’s 82% approval
rating at the time. Unfortunately, the current war in Iraq has had
the opposite effect. Be that as it may, continuing in the direction
of further dissection of our candidates does not bode well for either
party. Perhaps, that is why an independent, third party may hold the
most promise for America’s future.
© 2008, The Institute for Applied Common Sense
http://www.theviewfromoutsidemytinywindow.blogspot.com |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:13 am Post subject: Roselles Says If You're Not Loyal To Your Race You're Goddam |
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On Jul 13, 12:25 pm, Nick...@Click.com wrote
Gary Roselles, the racist moron who posts 4000+ times a month,
babbled:
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However, I can make you post 4 times a day, 7 days a
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Here's but a few...
"Say Yes Massa, Uncle Tom" -- Black mocking racist Gary Roselles
excoriates The Rev. Jesse Peterson for advocating personal
responsibility.
"Then why was you mother stupid enough to fuck all them black guys" --
Gary Roselles on the low esteem in which he holds black men.
"Both are traitors to their race" -- Gary Roselles on why he feels
remaining loyal to one's race is of paramount importance.
"Group negro poster pyjamarama is a coconut-headed coon" -- Gary
Roselles, at his most "enlightened" |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 12:25 am Post subject: If You're Not Loyal To PAJAMALOON, You're Goddamned |
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However, I can make you post 4 times a day, 7 days a
week
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 08:37:00 -0700, rightwinghank Skank Defended PAJAMALOON:
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On Jul 14, 11:27 am, pyjamarama <pyjamaram...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Yeah I know....
That Idiot gets on my case for a few of my harmless jokes about
negros... |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:57 am Post subject: Re: The Devil Calls Tony Snow Home |
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"Dennis M" <dennism3@dennism3.invalid> wrote in message
news:dennism3-ya02408000R1207081912540001@News.Individual.NET...
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Jesse Helms got down there and needed a silver-tounged devil. So to speak.
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Illustrating once again folks, no one can hate as a vulgar and pre-puberty
liberal can hate; this twerp needs his pull ups pulled down, and a bit of
home correction applied.
Dionysus |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: Re: Should Bush be Prosecuted for Murder? If so, then Cronie |
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On Jul 14, 2:05 pm, David Hartung wrote:
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Youre Another wrote:
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The Docket for War Crimes Trials should include all those Neocons and
their suckers-up whose deception and falsehoods drew the U.S. into the
Iraq war. Indictment, trial, conviction -- and hanging-- is in order;
although I tend to prefer the Guillotine set up in front of the
Capitol.
THERE MUST BE AN ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THOSE WHO REAPED PROFIT AND POWER
BY PERVERTING THE CONSTITUTION.
THERE MUST BE NO AMNESTY WITHOUT FULL CONFESSION AND RESTITUTION.
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Interesting.
I thought that the left opposed capitol punishment.
By the way, in the above issue, there is no evidence to support
indictment, let alone trial and conviction.
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This is the same insane notion that GWBush will be impeached and that
the US government actually had something to do with 9/11.
It's pretty sick, actually.
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