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Rich Travsky
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Except for coward CB's blood Re: Freedom 'is' paid with the

CB wrote:

Quote:

"fargo116" <fargo116@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:073c6156-1f8b-4080-bdee-777c47417a7f@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 8, 12:59 am, "CB" <C...@PrayForMe.com> wrote:
You guys miss your Uncle Saddamn

Have a good qwi

Actually, I miss the more than 4,100 American soldiers whos lives were
wasted a LOT more than I miss Saddam.

Freedom 'is' paid with the blood of Patriots. Without Americans willing to
serve their country in the Armed Services the 'potential' for Saddamn to
pass off his known but missing WMD (2200 liters of Anthrax...) to agents of
death may have become reality.

What did Iraq/Saddam have to do with patriotism?

http://www.state.gov/secretary/former/powell/remarks/2001/933.htm
Press Remarks with Foreign Minister of Egypt Amre Moussa

Secretary Colin L. Powell
Cairo, Egypt (Ittihadiya Palace)
February 24, 2001
...
He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of
mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his
neighbors.
...

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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: Freedom 'is' paid by others, so Barta can support his Ge

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 18:52:54 -0400, "CB"
<CB@PrayForMe.com> wrote:

Quote:

Bullshit

you supported the lying scumbag for starting the war.

By February 2003, just weeks before the
invasion----Your lying sack's government knew that
Saddam was not (NOT) a threat.

Bush Started a war based on lies, ----they are lies
because the reasoning for wanting it was NOT (not) a
threat ----but a misguided belief that democracy would
engender more democracy in the Mid-East

Utter rubbish that any low-level diplomat versed in
Mid-East Politics could have told him was silly.

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On Mon, 8 Mar 2004 00:10:25 -0500, "CB" <CB@prayforme.com> wrote:

Quote:

The only thing I've said about blacks and whites dating is of the
consequence they must accept as a result. Cultures differ no matter how
liberal you think. People identify with their culture and multicultural
families, as exotic and diverse political correctness may paint them, are
inherently dysfunctional in sharing hereditary identities.
..

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Adam Whyte-Settlar
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Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:14 pm Post subject: Re: History! - ABC Calls It - Obama Becomes First Black Pres

"Peter Principle" <petesfetas@SNIPITgmail.com> wrote in message
news:aehm445eh2be53r7gti2lt75o2bv96je37@4ax.com...

Quote:

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 21:59:51 +1000, "Adam Whyte-Settlar" <ador@ble> wrote:

"Pappy" <¦Pappy@2F7AVS.com> wrote in message
news:3gk2k.289$rW2.96@bignews9.bellsouth.net...

Howdy, Pawpaw.

He can't see you either.

bye bye loser

plonk

I wonder which part of PLONK it is that his desiccated rat turd of a brain
just can't parse.

IOW, how fucking STUPID must be before one believes it possible to filter
only by exact email addy?

Un-fucking-believable....

: )
Know what you mean.
Havn't seen a cheep from him since anyway.

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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:17 am Post subject: Re: Liberal Democrat on illegals: "Ship their sorry a$$es ba

On Jul 10, 1:23 pm, Kalimansi <jlwebster...@aol.com> wrote:

Quote:

qaqs9000 04:15:49 PM Jul 10 2008 wrote:

"This is really a non-argument for many of us when it comes to
illegals. I am a liberal Democrat and believe we should deport them
all. I believe they are just a source of cheap labor for business that
wishes to water down american workers power. The Republicans keep
talking about doing something and blame countless things on them. They
say they want a wall so do it. Let's stop playing games and just take
back our country. We all seem to be in agreement on this except for
the lunatic fringe. Ship their sorry a$$es back to mexico . They are
law breakers and invaders. Time to clean house."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
What Would the U.S.A.'s Founding Fathers Do?

If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that
original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive
forms of government ... The citizens must rush tumultuously to
arms, without concert, without system, without resource;
except in their courage and despair ...

The natural strength of the people in a large community, in
proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is greater
than in a small ... the people, without exaggeration, may be said
to be entirely the masters of their own fate.
-- Alexander Hamilton

We in America do not have government by the majority.
We have government by the majority who participate.
-- Thomas Jefferson

All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good
conscience to remain silent.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of
the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe
depositories.
-- Thomas Jefferson

No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
-- Thomas Jefferson

The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to
keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
against tyranny in government.
-- Thomas Jefferson

As our enemies have found we can reason like men, so now
let us show them we can fight like men also.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going
to do.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the
Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will
delineate and define you.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on
does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which
they draw their gains.
-- Thomas Jefferson

I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
corporations which dare already to challenge our government to
a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
-- Thomas Jefferson

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
liberties than standing armies.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government
those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations,
perverted it into tyranny.
-- Thomas Jefferson

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Horatio Fudruckerton
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vintage a

Do the World a favour, kill a Conservative <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote: Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vintage and was known about since then because it was under the care of the IAEE, the gullible right was telling themselves that Saddam was targeting American cities with his arsenal of ICBMs and had attacked the WTC on 9/11. Bush was calling orange alerts on US soil every time another embarrassing revelation about his administration appeared in the media and the right wing sheep were dutifully buying shrink wrap and duct tape to protect themselves. Proof that conservatives are the stupidest, most gullible brainless fucking sheep on the planet. It's a mental illness driven by low intelligence.

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CB
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vinta

"Horatio Fudruckerton" <HF@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22e08481dc3ef71c989eee@nntp.aioe.org...

Quote:

Do the World a favour, kill a Conservative <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote:

Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vintage and was known
about since then because it was under the care of the IAEE, the gullible
right was telling themselves that Saddam was targeting American cities
with
his arsenal of ICBMs and had attacked the WTC on 9/11.

Who ever said that, liar?

Quote:

Bush was calling orange alerts on US soil every time another embarrassing
revelation about his administration appeared in the media and the right
wing
sheep were dutifully buying shrink wrap and duct tape to protect
themselves.

And your Baathist buddies never had a chance...boo hoo

Quote:

Proof that conservatives are the stupidest, most gullible brainless
fucking
sheep on the planet. It's a mental illness driven by low intelligence.

We're still alive! We also haven't been hit again.

CB:
"No man is entitled to the blessings of freedom unless he be vigilant in its
preservation."
--Douglas MacArthur

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Do the World a favour, ki
Guest

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vinta

On Jul 11, 8:25 am, zzpat <zzpatr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:

CB wrote:
"Horatio Fudruckerton" <H...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22e08481dc3ef71c989eee@nntp.aioe.org...
Do the World a favour, kill a Conservative <rander3...@gmail.com> wrote:

Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vintage and was known
about since then because it was under the care of the IAEE, the gullible
right was telling themselves that Saddam was targeting American cities
with
his arsenal of ICBMs and had attacked the WTC on 9/11.

Who ever said that, liar?

According to a Zogby poll nearly 90% of our troops serving in Iraq
thought Saddam did 911.

Were they all idiots or were they lied to?

I'd go with the former. Toyota was going to open a plant in the
southern U.S. Instead, they went to Canada. Why? Because over 50%
of the local workforce was functionally illiterate.

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zzpat
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:25 pm Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vinta

CB wrote:

Quote:

"Horatio Fudruckerton" <HF@aol.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.22e08481dc3ef71c989eee@nntp.aioe.org...
Do the World a favour, kill a Conservative <rander3127@gmail.com> wrote:

Meanwhile, while the uranium was pre-1991 Gulf War vintage and was known
about since then because it was under the care of the IAEE, the gullible
right was telling themselves that Saddam was targeting American cities
with
his arsenal of ICBMs and had attacked the WTC on 9/11.

Who ever said that, liar?

According to a Zogby poll nearly 90% of our troops serving in Iraq
thought Saddam did 911.

Were they all idiots or were they lied to?

Almost 90% of troops in Iraq think war is retaliation for Saddam's role
in 9/11
Zogby Poll
February 28, 2006

Almost 90% think war is retaliation for Saddam´s role in 9/11, most
don't blame Iraqi public for insurgent attacks."

http://zzpat.tripod.com/cvb/feb_2006/almost_90_percent_of_troops_think_war_about_911.html

--
Impeach Bush
http://zzpat.tripod.com/cvb/

Impeach Search Engine:
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William Black
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: Another USA bank collapses 2 more giants on brink og 5 t

"Frank Lardino" <frankl.won.lottery@capitalist.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.22e277577feac896989ef8@nntp.aioe.org...

Quote:

William Black <william.black@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Well exactly, but while they're stupid they're also rich enough and
powerful enough to drive the world economy into a global recession.

abelard lives in a fucking rental. he knows fuck all about real estate,
capitalism or finance. abelard hasn't taken a course in university since
they handed out pencils, forbade erasers and had masturbation contests in
the
showers of 2nd rate frat groups.

abelard's net worth is little more than what you see in the bowl in the
morning after a good dump.

So...

You're not that keen on his ideas then...

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

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RLM
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: American Capitalists Demand Another Tax Payer Bail Out o

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:19:35 -0400, PJ O'Donovan wrote:

Quote:

Once Bush authorizes the borrowing of more money from the Communist
Chinese and the Muslim, Islamic Saudis to save ourselves. We will once
again be able to trumpet another capitalist victory and tell everyone
how good old fashioned American style capitalism always wins!

Just tell communist China to put it on our tab! Then we can march
around with our heads held high!

The "Chancres" in our society will anounce "Free Market" as if it was a
success. Delregulation was the start of the downfall.

This sale won't last when they can't keep up with demand.

You will need this to keep up in the job market before long.
http://www.rosettastone.com/personal/languages/chinese-mandarin

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Guest

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Why Does Racist Skank Defend POOPY??

Quote:

===========================================================================

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:21:37 -0600, "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote:

Quote:

"pyjamarama" <pyjamarama76@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Quote:

Gary Roselles' is anything but silent as he posts how he feels about
blacks (and gays):

On 18 Feb 2007 14:05:28 -0700 Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> "Then
why was you mother stupid enough to fuck all them black guys?"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On 6 April 2006 10:23:19 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com
wrote "Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a
faggot socialist."

Your search - - did not match any documents.
:

Quote:

On 11 Mar 2001 5:49:44 -0800, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote:
"The word faggot just describes a gay person"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles
rosel...@idt.net>wrote: "Bush's Uncle tom Cabinet is good first step
for GOP"

Nope - from a news article.

Quote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net
wrote:"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking
people is going to gain anything with real minorities?"

Yep - nothing wrong with that at all. It perfectly describes the republicans' game.

Quote:

On 30 Oct 2006 11:13:21 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com
wrote: "brown niggers need to be taken out"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On 2 Jul 2005 10:43:03 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> wrote:
"because of their rap speech"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On 23 Aug 2006 04:29:00 -0700, Gary Roselles <C...@KNICKLAS.COM
wrote: "What the fuck would a dumb cocksucker like (distinguished
black scholar) Sowell, who sits out at Stanford, never having worked a
day in his Uncle Tom life, know anything?"

Gee, jammy, how come all these claims are turning out to be lies or nothings?

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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Why Do silly wet-dream Posts of POOPY cause laughter?

Quote:

===========================================================================

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:21:37 -0600, "Server 13"
<its@casual.com> wrote:

Quote:

"pyjamarama" <pyjamarama76@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Quote:

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On 6 April 2006 10:23:19 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com
wrote "Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a
faggot socialist."

Your search - - did not match any documents.
:

Quote:

On 11 Mar 2001 5:49:44 -0800, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote:
"The word faggot just describes a gay person"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles
rosel...@idt.net>wrote: "Bush's Uncle tom Cabinet is good first step
for GOP"

Nope - from a news article.

Quote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net
wrote:"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking
people is going to gain anything with real minorities?"

Yep - nothing wrong with that at all. It perfectly
describes the republicans' game.

Quote:

On 30 Oct 2006 11:13:21 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com
wrote: "brown niggers need to be taken out"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On 2 Jul 2005 10:43:03 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> wrote:
"because of their rap speech"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

Gee, jammy, how come all these claims are turning out
to be lies or nothings?

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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Universally Laughed At? Just Read His Posts--Nicklas speaks,

Quote:

===========================================================================

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:21:37 -0600, "Server 13" <its@casual.com> wrote:

Quote:

"pyjamarama" <pyjamarama76@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Quote:

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On 6 April 2006 10:23:19 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com
wrote "Yeah, there's a real fucking credible authority----Hitchens a
faggot socialist."

Your search - - did not match any documents.
:

Quote:

On 11 Mar 2001 5:49:44 -0800, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net> wrote:
"The word faggot just describes a gay person"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles
rosel...@idt.net>wrote: "Bush's Uncle tom Cabinet is good first step
for GOP"

Nope - from a news article.

Quote:

On Thu, 28 Dec 2000 19:27:54 GMT, Gary Roselles <rosel...@idt.net
wrote:"You actually think that placing blackskinned, white thinking
people is going to gain anything with real minorities?"

Yep - nothing wrong with that at all. It perfectly describes the republicans' game.

Quote:

On 30 Oct 2006 11:13:21 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com
wrote: "brown niggers need to be taken out"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

On 2 Jul 2005 10:43:03 -0800, Gary Roselles <C...@Knicklas.com> wrote:
"because of their rap speech"

Your search - - did not match any documents.

Quote:

Gee, jammy, how come all these claims are turning out to be lies or nothings?

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SgtMinor
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Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: American Capitalists Demand Another Tax Payer Bail Out o

PJ O'Donovan wrote:

Quote:

Once Bush authorizes the borrowing of more money from the Communist Chinese
and the Muslim, Islamic Saudis to save ourselves. We will once again be able
to trumpet another capitalist victory and tell everyone how good old
fashioned American style capitalism always wins!

Just tell communist China to put it on our tab! Then we can march around
with our heads held high!

Adam Smith's invisible hand is reaching deep into the taxpayer's
pockets. Unrestrained capitalism is the greatest!

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Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: Nudism is never wrong.

On Apr 29, 7:16 am, Zee <jonZ...@webtv.net> wrote:

Quote:

On Apr 29, 6:38 am, "Mark" <alln...@nospammindspring.com> wrote:> "Dario Western" <dariowest...@nospambigpond.com> wrote in message

news:xgvRj.5927$ko5.4426@news-

Trent,

Why did you post this message to a wrestling and Mormon newsgroup?

Why did YOU??

because once evolving from a primate to a human being..;if that is
possible....the first discovery is that the most hate that can be
conjured up is a group of people or peer group that will not admit
their evil....the evil itself is not unaceptable to the masses but the
denial of it is unacceptable...ref...pastor wright and obama...the
militant terrorist suicide bombers fighting for destruction of
everyone but their kind.....stalin...hitler...etc.....does anyone
think that hitler or stalin would ever repent....it is the
unrelentling attitude of the nudist that is prevalent and their overt
desires to aggress and force their nakedness on the rest of
society....Dario is cut from the same cloth that Anna Nikki and i are
cut from ..knowing that our beliefs are not popular and know exactly
how the non naked feel and why....but you primates until you evolve
and admit will never know.....jz

The Jewish, Hindu, Muslim, and Hari-Krishna beliefs are not popular,
but in a free world, they have a right to practice them. Most non
Hari-Krishnas likely don't relish seeing the Hari Krishnas walking
down the street and chanting and doing their dance, but it is the Hari-
Krishna's Just right, and Just Freedom to do so. Nakedness is not
being "forced" on anyone by merely walking down the street. Unless
your person or property is violated (or endangered), nothing is being
forced on you, and you have a Just right to Freedom whether you
"jon_zee," and other Americans, and other people throughout the world
recognize it or not, you have a Just right to Freedom unless you are
violating (or endangering) someone's persons or property including
public property, or engaged in commerce, which given the exploitative
nature of which may Justly be regulated, though not prohibited,
through product bundling, quality controls, and advertising
regulations, and possibly though not surely other ways I have not
thought of.

Thus, you surely have the Just right to commit non-dangerous, non-
commercial acts in public. This is Freedom. The line may not be
drawn more strictly than this, or must we violate the principle of
Freedom entirely and may as well do away with it, leaving the future
to a single prevailing ideology and religion, limiting all speeches
and actions to those of the past, for certainly once something is
outlawed it would be extinct and nearly impossible to gain a majority
support for since they would not even be able to try or see or
practice it at all. Save the argument I am presenting here, and such
is our current oppressed state.

The only thing I think about "Anna" is that perhaps she is denigrating
sex and promoting nonsexual nudity in an attempt to protect nudism
from the anti-sex bigots and persecutors in this world. I don't know
if such a tactic is well founded, but she seems maybe too much a voice
of the prejudice Nazi crowd to seriously be taking such a tactic.

Leave your dress and conduct codes to private property owners who may
eject any who violate them. No country may be called free which could
require you to wear a Burka in public, but apparently that is a
possibility requiring only 50% of the voters in the United States (or
less than 50% as the minority of elected dictators can pass the law).
Thus we see, Democracy is merely a means of political change, and
Freedom from past governance, but that it is in no way an
establishment or ensurer of Freedom. Freedom is a principle much more
important than Democracy, it is a principle to be both advanced in the
minds of the people of this planet, and established in the foundations
of any Just political system which governs them. The United States is
one of the biggest human rights violators on the planet due to its
disregard for Freedom in areas of drugs, arms, and sex. It has not
been the bastion of Freedom it was supposedly conceived to be.
American's Just rights and thus their prosperity, wealth, and
livelihood are violated all over the country - as cities may
apparently legally do thing such as ban the drinking of beer on the
beach - taking the common citizen's wealth and prosperity, and taxing
them to spend more money policing and jailing offenders. Such is the
despotic state of the tyranny of our nation today. As seen with the
drug war this vicious cycle increases true crime, undermines the
justice system, and leads to more lawlessness and criminal
lifestyles. The USA puts more people in prison per capita than any
nation in the world besides China, and thinks to call itself free
compared to such fallen Communist Empires and Theocracies which may
respect neither free speech nor Freedom of religion, nor the rights of
the accused - nor the right to acquire property, and may even force
people to work like slaves - though I'm not sure how things work/
worked in communist countries. And of those rights, none at all are
protected by Democracy, they all are protected by the insufficient
Constitution (specifically the Bill of Rights) which requires 2/3rd of
both houses of Congress and 3/4th's of all state's legislatures to
change, and neither has it been recognized to my knowledge to protect
your right to property as taxes could be raised to 100% and the nation
made Communist. Allying yourself with a lesser evil may make sense at
times, but the truth is you wish to see both evils fall or be
corrected - we can only hope for the nation's sake the latter comes to
pass.

So the nation's not free, and to the extent it is free, it is not free
because of Democracy but because of the Bill of Rights. Democracy
does not ensure Freedom, it is merely a means of political change.
Democracy is merely a means of freeing ourselves from the dictators
who ruled us in the past and electing new dictators without having to
resort to war. The Bill of Rights ensures Freedom and is either not
recognized or not extensive enough.

There are 5 means of political change:

1. Free Speech - if it is allowed
2. Democracy - if your country has it
3. Civil Disobedience - if the penalties are not too harsh - sucks
nonetheless because you can be penalized
4. Targeted Assassinations
5. War - nearly always civil war

As you can see, Free Speech and Democracy are the most palatable.
Free Speech and Democracy allow us to change the government without
war by appealing to the rulers or replacing them. The other three
methods cost lives but are sometimes necessary.

And those who violate minority freedom are prejudice evil lying
bigots, doing satanism and sin, jacking for nothing, taking people's
unalienable freedoms away.

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