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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:29 pm    Post subject: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to smear Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaD9I5QN6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I&feature=related

Neither one shows anyone saying McCain is not a hero
No shit...Clearly both were put out to dispute Obama's smear attack.

Man up and quit trying to play the victim.
The only victim is going to be doofus douche bag racist Obama as he

learns that it doesn't pay off to attack a war hero for serving his
country.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 5:17 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

Quote:
Man up and quit trying to play the victim.
The only victim is going to be doofus douche bag racist Obama as he
learns that it doesn't pay off to attack a war hero for serving his
country.

Still trying to play McCain as some kind of victim, eh?
No, clearly Obama is the only one being hurt by his own scumbag

tactics.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

"Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head"
<messiah2999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaD9I5QN6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I&feature=related

Neither one shows anyone saying McCain is not a hero, or denouncing his
service in any way.
Man up and quit trying to play the victim.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:58 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 21:49:13 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote:

Quote:
"Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head"
messiah2999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a992c57d-0de8-4325-ad3d-2417eb220e0d@w1g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdaD9I5QN6c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I&feature=related

Neither one shows anyone saying McCain is not a hero, or denouncing his
service in any way.
Man up and quit trying to play the victim.

Well, John McCain was a victim. Then...

From 1966 to 1973 John McCain was a prisoner of the North Vietnamese.
He missed pretty much everything that happened during those formative
years.

His formative experiences are entirely different from all of the rest
of us who remember those years. He can read about these events, watch
the TV shows and movies and listen to the soundtrack of the time after
the fact, but he didn't *experience* any of it at the time.

Knowing something happened is very different from living through it.
History and experience are two very different things.

Of course, we didn't share his experiences during those years, either. But
those were personal experiences. They didn't change the course of history.
They changed John McCain.

John McCain deserves to be honored for his service to his country and for
the incredible sacrifices he's made. He has shown courage, fortitude,
resilience and commitment. If this is the stuff of heroes, John McCain is an
American hero.

That said, it's an undeniable fact that, because of this service, John
McCain missed many of the most influential events of our time. Many of the
experiences that shaped our modern world were cruelly denied to John McCain.
For him it was as if it never happened.

It isn't his fault. It wasn't his doing. It's just the way it is. His
experiences led him to a different place.

John McCain isn't out of touch because he's old. He's out of touch because
in many ways he's a man out of time. His experiences didn't lead him into
the same world most of us live in. His world is very different from ours.

For example, this is a man who doesn't know how to use a personal computer.

My parents are old, too. Older than John McCain. But like most seniors, they
know how to use a computer.

John McCain has never sent an email.

John McCain has never surfed the Web.

John McCain has never even used a word processor.

Apparently he doesn't know how to use a cell phone, either...

------
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailmccain28-2008jun28,0,1179827.story

CELLPHONE BLUES
Can you hear me now?
Bedeviled by a bad cellphone connection, John McCain gives a conference call
speech to dead air.

June 28, 2008

Although John McCain was stumping in Ohio on Friday, his campaign arranged
for him to talk by phone to leaders of B'nai B'rith International, a major
Jewish group, who were meeting in Ottawa. Reporters were invited to dial in
to the conference call at 3 p.m. to listen.

McCain soon came on the line and launched into his spiel. "Thank you for all
the good you do," he began.

Then silence.

"We lost the senator," a voice conceded after a minute or so. "We lost the
candidate. . . . Can we get a message to someone?"

More minutes passed.

Finally, the voice announced that McCain was on the road and had lost his
cellphone signal. "We'll just have to wait," the voice counseled.

Someone hummed a ditty into the phone. More minutes passed. Finally, at
3:18, McCain came back on the line.

"Where did you lose me?" he asked.

"We lost you at the very beginning," he was told. "You gave your whole
speech and you didn't know you weren't connected to us."

"I'm so sorry," McCain replied. "I'm very sorry."
------

Think about it for a minute. This man is completely unfamiliar with many
things almost all of us, including almost all of his colleagues, take for
granted. For most of us these things are an integral part of our lives every
single day.

In a digital, wired world, John McCain is 100% analog and discreet. How did
this happen? Why are so many of the things that are so familiar to all of us
so foreign to him?

He missed it. He completely missed many of the common cultural,
technological and political experiences that led us to where we are today.

Here's a short list of just a few of the seminal events that John McCain
missed in more or less chronological order:

Hippies, peace and love? Missed it, beginning to end.

The Beach Boys? Missed it.

Start of Daylight Savings Time? Missed It.

Star Trek? Missed it.

Reagan's entry into politics? Missed it.

Super Bowls I, II, III, IV, V, VI and VII? Missed 'em.

Apollo 1 fire? Missed it.

The Doors? Missed it.

The Six Day War? Missed it.

Sgt. Peppers? Missed it.

Race riots in LA, Newark, Detroit, Chicago, Washington...
Missed it.

Thurgood Marshall? Missed it.

Assassinations of MLK and RFK? Missed it.

'Hair' and the Age of Aquarius? Missed it.

Repeal of the Gold Standard? Missed it.

The White Album? Missed it.

The Prague Spring? Missed it.

Cops busting heads in Chicago? Missed it.

Apollo 8 orbits the moon, reads from Genesis? Missed it.

Broadway Joe Namath calls his shot in Super Bowl III? Missed it.

Laugh-In? Missed it.

Led Zeppelin I? Missed it

First moon landing? Missed it.

Woodstock? Missed it.

Altamont? Missed it.

My Lai massacre? Missed it.

The Chicago Eight? Missed it.

The Miracle Mets? Missed it.

First Earth Day? Missed it.

Apollo 13? Missed it.

The Kent State massacre? Missed it.

Voting age lowered to 18? Missed it.

Mama Cass, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Duane Allamn, etc.,
etc., etc., all rise to stardom, then... all die. Missed it.

All In The Family? Missed it.

Frazier-Ali I&II? Missed it.

Ali-Foreman? Missed it.

Charlie Manson killings? Missed it.

Attica? Missed it.

First microprocessor? Missed it.

First hand held calculator? Missed it.

The Godfather? Missed it.

Watergate? Missed it.

The Munich Olympic massacre? Missed it.

The advent of recombinant DNA technology? Missed it.

Last moon landing? Missed it.

Miami Dolphin's perfect season? Missed it.

Roe v Wade? Missed it.

Dark Side Of The Moon? Missed it.

John McCain deserves to be honored. But he doesn't deserve to be president.
On the merits, how can a man so unfamiliar with cultural experiences and
everyday technology that shape modern life expect to lead us in the digital
age?

Honor John McCain. Vote for Barack Obama.

Feel free to add to the list and/or pass this post around.


---
The Metterling List

List No. 5

6 undershirts

6 shorts

6 handkerchiefs

has always puzzled scholars, principally because of the total absence of
socks.

-The Collected Laundry Lists of Hans Metterling, Vol. I, 437 pp., plus
xxxii-page introduction; indexed; $18.75,
Venal & Sons
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

"Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head"
<messiah2999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9cc794e8-1cb3-493f-967a-f79e21899530@a9g2000prl.googlegroups.com...

Quote:
Man up and quit trying to play the victim.

The only victim is going to be doofus douche bag racist Obama as he
learns that it doesn't pay off to attack a war hero for serving his
country.

Still trying to play McCain as some kind of victim, eh?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

"Hans Metterling" wrote in message
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Quote:

John McCain deserves to be honored for his service to his country and for
the incredible sacrifices he's made. He has shown courage, fortitude,
resilience and commitment. If this is the stuff of heroes, John McCain is
an
American hero.

John McCain *has* been honored for his service.
But the office of President is not a reward for damaged vets.
If it were - there'd be like 4000 presidents from just the War Against Iraq.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:12:31 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote:

Quote:
"Hans Metterling" wrote in message
news:ismo641cnfrf4cpahebbl97kt4kttv75vn@4ax.com...

John McCain deserves to be honored for his service to his country and for
the incredible sacrifices he's made. He has shown courage, fortitude,
resilience and commitment. If this is the stuff of heroes, John McCain is
an
American hero.

John McCain *has* been honored for his service.
But the office of President is not a reward for damaged vets.
If it were - there'd be like 4000 presidents from just the War Against Iraq.

Which is but one of the points made in the response. In case you missed the
rest...

That said, it's an undeniable fact that, because of this service, John
McCain missed many of the most influential events of our time. Many of the
experiences that shaped our modern world were cruelly denied to John McCain.
For him it was as if it never happened.

It isn't his fault. It wasn't his doing. It's just the way it is. His
experiences led him to a different place.

John McCain isn't out of touch because he's old. He's out of touch because
in many ways he's a man out of time. His experiences didn't lead him into
the same world most of us live in. His world is very different from ours.

For example, this is a man who doesn't know how to use a personal computer.

My parents are old, too. Older than John McCain. But like most seniors, they
know how to use a computer.

John McCain has never sent an email.

John McCain has never surfed the Web.

John McCain has never even used a word processor.

Apparently he doesn't know how to use a cell phone, either...

------
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailmccain28-2008jun28,0,1179827.story

CELLPHONE BLUES
Can you hear me now?
Bedeviled by a bad cellphone connection, John McCain gives a conference call
speech to dead air.

June 28, 2008

Although John McCain was stumping in Ohio on Friday, his campaign arranged
for him to talk by phone to leaders of B'nai B'rith International, a major
Jewish group, who were meeting in Ottawa. Reporters were invited to dial in
to the conference call at 3 p.m. to listen.

McCain soon came on the line and launched into his spiel. "Thank you for all
the good you do," he began.

Then silence.

"We lost the senator," a voice conceded after a minute or so. "We lost the
candidate. . . . Can we get a message to someone?"

More minutes passed.

Finally, the voice announced that McCain was on the road and had lost his
cellphone signal. "We'll just have to wait," the voice counseled.

Someone hummed a ditty into the phone. More minutes passed. Finally, at
3:18, McCain came back on the line.

"Where did you lose me?" he asked.

"We lost you at the very beginning," he was told. "You gave your whole
speech and you didn't know you weren't connected to us."

"I'm so sorry," McCain replied. "I'm very sorry."
------

Think about it for a minute. This man is completely unfamiliar with many
things almost all of us, including almost all of his colleagues, take for
granted. For most of us these things are an integral part of our lives every
single day.

In a digital, wired world, John McCain is 100% analog and discreet. How did
this happen? Why are so many of the things that are so familiar to all of us
so foreign to him?

He missed it. He completely missed many of the common cultural,
technological and political experiences that led us to where we are today.

Here's a short list of just a few of the seminal events that John McCain
missed in more or less chronological order:

Hippies, peace and love? Missed it, beginning to end.

The Beach Boys? Missed it.

Start of Daylight Savings Time? Missed It.

Star Trek? Missed it.

Reagan's entry into politics? Missed it.

Super Bowls I, II, III, IV, V, VI and VII? Missed 'em.

Apollo 1 fire? Missed it.

The Doors? Missed it.

The Six Day War? Missed it.

Sgt. Peppers? Missed it.

Race riots in LA, Newark, Detroit, Chicago, Washington...
Missed it.

Thurgood Marshall? Missed it.

Assassinations of MLK and RFK? Missed it.

'Hair' and the Age of Aquarius? Missed it.

Repeal of the Gold Standard? Missed it.

The White Album? Missed it.

The Prague Spring? Missed it.

Cops busting heads in Chicago? Missed it.

Apollo 8 orbits the moon, reads from Genesis? Missed it.

Broadway Joe Namath calls his shot in Super Bowl III? Missed it.

Laugh-In? Missed it.

Led Zeppelin I? Missed it

First moon landing? Missed it.

Woodstock? Missed it.

Altamont? Missed it.

My Lai massacre? Missed it.

The Chicago Eight? Missed it.

The Miracle Mets? Missed it.

First Earth Day? Missed it.

Apollo 13? Missed it.

The Kent State massacre? Missed it.

Voting age lowered to 18? Missed it.

Mama Cass, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Duane Allamn, etc.,
etc., etc., all rise to stardom, then... all die. Missed it.

All In The Family? Missed it.

Frazier-Ali I&II? Missed it.

Ali-Foreman? Missed it.

Charlie Manson killings? Missed it.

Attica? Missed it.

First microprocessor? Missed it.

First hand held calculator? Missed it.

The Godfather? Missed it.

Watergate? Missed it.

The Munich Olympic massacre? Missed it.

The advent of recombinant DNA technology? Missed it.

Last moon landing? Missed it.

Miami Dolphin's perfect season? Missed it.

Roe v Wade? Missed it.

Dark Side Of The Moon? Missed it.

John McCain deserves to be honored. But he doesn't deserve to be president.
On the merits, how can a man so unfamiliar with cultural experiences and
everyday technology that shape modern life expect to lead us in the digital
age?

Honor John McCain. Vote for Barack Obama.

Feel free to add to the list and/or pass this post around.


---
The Metterling List

List No. 5

6 undershirts

6 shorts

6 handkerchiefs

has always puzzled scholars, principally because of the total absence of
socks.

-The Collected Laundry Lists of Hans Metterling, Vol. I, 437 pp., plus
xxxii-page introduction; indexed; $18.75,
Venal & Sons
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

"Anonymous Infidel - the anti-political talking head"
<messiah2999@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Still trying to play McCain as some kind of victim, eh?

No, clearly Obama is the only one being hurt by his own scumbag
tactics.

I would like to be so "hurt"... and may I never recover.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

"Hans Metterling" wrote in message
news:9maq645sfr7pq9epmf5026pfgvroo0q2ks@4ax.com...
Quote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:12:31 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net

John McCain *has* been honored for his service.
But the office of President is not a reward for damaged vets.
If it were - there'd be like 4000 presidents from just the War Against
Iraq.

Which is but one of the points made in the response. In case you missed
the
rest...

That said, it's an undeniable fact that, because of this service, John
McCain missed many of the most influential events of our time. Many of the
experiences that shaped our modern world were cruelly denied to John
McCain.
For him it was as if it never happened.

So - you're saying it's his LACK of experience that would make him such a
good president, eh?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:50:32 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote:

Quote:
"Hans Metterling" wrote in message
news:9maq645sfr7pq9epmf5026pfgvroo0q2ks@4ax.com...
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:12:31 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net

John McCain *has* been honored for his service.
But the office of President is not a reward for damaged vets.
If it were - there'd be like 4000 presidents from just the War Against
Iraq.

Which is but one of the points made in the response. In case you missed
the
rest...

That said, it's an undeniable fact that, because of this service, John
McCain missed many of the most influential events of our time. Many of the
experiences that shaped our modern world were cruelly denied to John
McCain.
For him it was as if it never happened.

So - you're saying it's his LACK of experience that would make him such a
good president, eh?

<sigh>

Jaybus...

Try reading it again...

Here's a hint: Saying John McCain is DEFINITELY NOT qualified to be
president - or even close - is not quite the same thing as saying he would
make a good president...

From 1966 to 1973 John McCain was a prisoner of the North Vietnamese.
He missed pretty much everything that happened during those formative
years.

His formative experiences are entirely different from all of the rest
of us who remember those years. He can read about these events, watch
the TV shows and movies and listen to the soundtrack of the time after
the fact, but he didn't *experience* any of it at the time.

Knowing something happened is very different from living through it.
History and experience are two very different things.

Of course, we didn't share his experiences during those years, either. But
those were personal experiences. They didn't change the course of history.
They changed John McCain.

John McCain deserves to be honored for his service to his country and for
the incredible sacrifices he's made. He has shown courage, fortitude,
resilience and commitment. If this is the stuff of heroes, John McCain is an
American hero.

That said, it's an undeniable fact that, because of this service, John
McCain missed many of the most influential events of our time. Many of the
experiences that shaped our modern world were cruelly denied to John McCain.
For him it was as if it never happened.

It isn't his fault. It wasn't his doing. It's just the way it is. His
experiences led him to a different place.

John McCain isn't out of touch because he's old. He's out of touch because
in many ways he's a man out of time. His experiences didn't lead him into
the same world most of us live in. His world is very different from ours.

For example, this is a man who doesn't know how to use a personal computer.

My parents are old, too. Older than John McCain. But like most seniors, they
know how to use a computer.

John McCain has never sent an email.

John McCain has never surfed the Web.

John McCain has never even used a word processor.

Apparently he doesn't know how to use a cell phone, either...

------
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailmccain28-2008jun28,0,1179827.story

CELLPHONE BLUES
Can you hear me now?
Bedeviled by a bad cellphone connection, John McCain gives a conference call
speech to dead air.

June 28, 2008

Although John McCain was stumping in Ohio on Friday, his campaign arranged
for him to talk by phone to leaders of B'nai B'rith International, a major
Jewish group, who were meeting in Ottawa. Reporters were invited to dial in
to the conference call at 3 p.m. to listen.

McCain soon came on the line and launched into his spiel. "Thank you for all
the good you do," he began.

Then silence.

"We lost the senator," a voice conceded after a minute or so. "We lost the
candidate. . . . Can we get a message to someone?"

More minutes passed.

Finally, the voice announced that McCain was on the road and had lost his
cellphone signal. "We'll just have to wait," the voice counseled.

Someone hummed a ditty into the phone. More minutes passed. Finally, at
3:18, McCain came back on the line.

"Where did you lose me?" he asked.

"We lost you at the very beginning," he was told. "You gave your whole
speech and you didn't know you weren't connected to us."

"I'm so sorry," McCain replied. "I'm very sorry."
------

Think about it for a minute. This man is completely unfamiliar with many
things almost all of us, including almost all of his colleagues, take for
granted. For most of us these things are an integral part of our lives every
single day.

In a digital, wired world, John McCain is 100% analog and discreet. How did
this happen? Why are so many of the things that are so familiar to all of us
so foreign to him?

He missed it. He completely missed many of the common cultural,
technological and political experiences that led us to where we are today.

Here's a short list of just a few of the seminal events that John McCain
missed in more or less chronological order:

Hippies, peace and love? Missed it, beginning to end.

The Beach Boys? Missed it.

Start of Daylight Savings Time? Missed It.

Star Trek? Missed it.

Reagan's entry into politics? Missed it.

Super Bowls I, II, III, IV, V, VI and VII? Missed 'em.

Apollo 1 fire? Missed it.

The Doors? Missed it.

The Six Day War? Missed it.

Sgt. Peppers? Missed it.

Race riots in LA, Newark, Detroit, Chicago, Washington...
Missed it.

Thurgood Marshall? Missed it.

Assassinations of MLK and RFK? Missed it.

'Hair' and the Age of Aquarius? Missed it.

Repeal of the Gold Standard? Missed it.

The White Album? Missed it.

The Prague Spring? Missed it.

Cops busting heads in Chicago? Missed it.

Apollo 8 orbits the moon, reads from Genesis? Missed it.

Broadway Joe Namath calls his shot in Super Bowl III? Missed it.

Laugh-In? Missed it.

Led Zeppelin I? Missed it

First moon landing? Missed it.

Woodstock? Missed it.

Altamont? Missed it.

My Lai massacre? Missed it.

The Chicago Eight? Missed it.

The Miracle Mets? Missed it.

First Earth Day? Missed it.

Apollo 13? Missed it.

The Kent State massacre? Missed it.

Voting age lowered to 18? Missed it.

Mama Cass, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Duane Allamn, etc.,
etc., etc., all rise to stardom, then... all die. Missed it.

All In The Family? Missed it.

Frazier-Ali I&II? Missed it.

Ali-Foreman? Missed it.

Charlie Manson killings? Missed it.

Attica? Missed it.

First microprocessor? Missed it.

First hand held calculator? Missed it.

The Godfather? Missed it.

Watergate? Missed it.

The Munich Olympic massacre? Missed it.

The advent of recombinant DNA technology? Missed it.

Last moon landing? Missed it.

Miami Dolphin's perfect season? Missed it.

Roe v Wade? Missed it.

Dark Side Of The Moon? Missed it.

John McCain deserves to be honored. But he doesn't deserve to be president.
On the merits, how can a man so unfamiliar with cultural experiences and
everyday technology that shape modern life expect to lead us in the digital
age?

Honor John McCain. Vote for Barack Obama.

Feel free to add to the list and/or pass this post around.


---
The Metterling List

List No. 5

6 undershirts

6 shorts

6 handkerchiefs

has always puzzled scholars, principally because of the total absence of
socks.

-The Collected Laundry Lists of Hans Metterling, Vol. I, 437 pp., plus
xxxii-page introduction; indexed; $18.75,
Venal & Sons


---
The Metterling List

List No. 5

6 undershirts

6 shorts

6 handkerchiefs

has always puzzled scholars, principally because of the total absence of socks.

-The Collected Laundry Lists of Hans Metterling, Vol. I, 437 pp., plus xxxii-page introduction; indexed; $18.75,
Venal & Sons
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 17:50:32 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net>
wrote:

Quote:
"Hans Metterling" wrote in message
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 00:12:31 -0500, "Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net

John McCain *has* been honored for his service.
But the office of President is not a reward for damaged vets.
If it were - there'd be like 4000 presidents from just the War Against
Iraq.

Which is but one of the points made in the response. In case you missed
the
rest...

That said, it's an undeniable fact that, because of this service, John
McCain missed many of the most influential events of our time. Many of the
experiences that shaped our modern world were cruelly denied to John
McCain.
For him it was as if it never happened.

So - you're saying it's his LACK of experience that would make him such a
good president, eh?

<sigh>

Jaybus...

Here's a hint: Saying John McCain DEFINITELY DOES NOT deserve to be
president - or even close - is not quite the same thing as saying he would
make a good president. Witness, from my closing...

------
John McCain deserves to be honored. But he doesn't deserve to be president.
On the merits, how can a man so unfamiliar with cultural experiences and
everyday technology that shape modern life expect to lead us in the digital
age?

Honor John McCain. Vote for Barack Obama.
------

Now that you know you have it entirely ass-backwards, try reading it
again...

From 1966 to 1973 John McCain was a prisoner of the North Vietnamese.
He missed pretty much everything that happened during those formative
years.

His formative experiences are entirely different from all of the rest
of us who remember those years. He can read about these events, watch
the TV shows and movies and listen to the soundtrack of the time after
the fact, but he didn't *experience* any of it at the time.

Knowing something happened is very different from living through it.
History and experience are two very different things.

Of course, we didn't share his experiences during those years, either. But
those were personal experiences. They didn't change the course of history.
They changed John McCain.

John McCain deserves to be honored for his service to his country and for
the incredible sacrifices he's made. He has shown courage, fortitude,
resilience and commitment. If this is the stuff of heroes, John McCain is an
American hero.

That said, it's an undeniable fact that, because of this service, John
McCain missed many of the most influential events of our time. Many of the
experiences that shaped our modern world were cruelly denied to John McCain.
For him it was as if it never happened.

It isn't his fault. It wasn't his doing. It's just the way it is. His
experiences led him to a different place.

John McCain isn't out of touch because he's old. He's out of touch because
in many ways he's a man out of time. His experiences didn't lead him into
the same world most of us live in. His world is very different from ours.

For example, this is a man who doesn't know how to use a personal computer.

My parents are old, too. Older than John McCain. But like most seniors, they
know how to use a computer.

John McCain has never sent an email.

John McCain has never surfed the Web.

John McCain has never even used a word processor.

Apparently he doesn't know how to use a cell phone, either...

------
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-trailmccain28-2008jun28,0,1179827.story

CELLPHONE BLUES
Can you hear me now?
Bedeviled by a bad cellphone connection, John McCain gives a conference call
speech to dead air.

June 28, 2008

Although John McCain was stumping in Ohio on Friday, his campaign arranged
for him to talk by phone to leaders of B'nai B'rith International, a major
Jewish group, who were meeting in Ottawa. Reporters were invited to dial in
to the conference call at 3 p.m. to listen.

McCain soon came on the line and launched into his spiel. "Thank you for all
the good you do," he began.

Then silence.

"We lost the senator," a voice conceded after a minute or so. "We lost the
candidate. . . . Can we get a message to someone?"

More minutes passed.

Finally, the voice announced that McCain was on the road and had lost his
cellphone signal. "We'll just have to wait," the voice counseled.

Someone hummed a ditty into the phone. More minutes passed. Finally, at
3:18, McCain came back on the line.

"Where did you lose me?" he asked.

"We lost you at the very beginning," he was told. "You gave your whole
speech and you didn't know you weren't connected to us."

"I'm so sorry," McCain replied. "I'm very sorry."
------

Think about it for a minute. This man is completely unfamiliar with many
things almost all of us, including almost all of his colleagues, take for
granted. For most of us these things are an integral part of our lives every
single day.

In a digital, wired world, John McCain is 100% analog and discreet. How did
this happen? Why are so many of the things that are so familiar to all of us
so foreign to him?

He missed it. He completely missed many of the common cultural,
technological and political experiences that led us to where we are today.

Here's a short list of just a few of the seminal events that John McCain
missed in more or less chronological order:

Hippies, peace and love? Missed it, beginning to end.

The Beach Boys? Missed it.

Start of Daylight Savings Time? Missed It.

Star Trek? Missed it.

Reagan's entry into politics? Missed it.

Super Bowls I, II, III, IV, V, VI and VII? Missed 'em.

Apollo 1 fire? Missed it.

The Doors? Missed it.

The Six Day War? Missed it.

Sgt. Peppers? Missed it.

Race riots in LA, Newark, Detroit, Chicago, Washington...
Missed it.

Thurgood Marshall? Missed it.

Assassinations of MLK and RFK? Missed it.

'Hair' and the Age of Aquarius? Missed it.

Repeal of the Gold Standard? Missed it.

The White Album? Missed it.

The Prague Spring? Missed it.

Cops busting heads in Chicago? Missed it.

Apollo 8 orbits the moon, reads from Genesis? Missed it.

Broadway Joe Namath calls his shot in Super Bowl III? Missed it.

Laugh-In? Missed it.

Led Zeppelin I? Missed it

First moon landing? Missed it.

Woodstock? Missed it.

Altamont? Missed it.

My Lai massacre? Missed it.

The Chicago Eight? Missed it.

The Miracle Mets? Missed it.

First Earth Day? Missed it.

Apollo 13? Missed it.

The Kent State massacre? Missed it.

Voting age lowered to 18? Missed it.

Mama Cass, Brian Jones, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, Duane Allamn, etc.,
etc., etc., all rise to stardom, then... all die. Missed it.

All In The Family? Missed it.

Frazier-Ali I&II? Missed it.

Ali-Foreman? Missed it.

Charlie Manson killings? Missed it.

Attica? Missed it.

First microprocessor? Missed it.

First hand held calculator? Missed it.

The Godfather? Missed it.

Watergate? Missed it.

The Munich Olympic massacre? Missed it.

The advent of recombinant DNA technology? Missed it.

Last moon landing? Missed it.

Miami Dolphin's perfect season? Missed it.

Roe v Wade? Missed it.

Dark Side Of The Moon? Missed it.

John McCain deserves to be honored. But he doesn't deserve to be president.
On the merits, how can a man so unfamiliar with cultural experiences and
everyday technology that shape modern life expect to lead us in the digital
age?

Honor John McCain. Vote for Barack Obama.

Feel free to add to the list and/or pass this post around.


---
The Metterling List

List No. 5

6 undershirts

6 shorts

6 handkerchiefs

has always puzzled scholars, principally because of the total absence of
socks.

-The Collected Laundry Lists of Hans Metterling, Vol. I, 437 pp., plus
xxxii-page introduction; indexed; $18.75,
Venal & Sons
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: McCain is a Hero...Obama is a douchebag for trying to sm Reply with quote

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Still trying to play McCain as some kind of victim, eh?
No, clearly Obama is the only one being hurt by his own scumbag
tactics.

I would like to be so "hurt"... and may I never recover.
And I would like it if you actually wrote something worth reading...
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