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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

Forwarded:



Preparing the Battlefield
The Bush Administration steps up its secret moves against Iran.


http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/07/07/080707fa_fact_hersh



Did you see the recent Reuters piece about the covert operations that
the US has been involved with in Iraq according to Seymour Hersh as he
has an article about such in latest issue of the New Yorker (see the
link above). I had tried to get Lara Logan (chief foreign
correspondent for the CBS Evening News) to do a segment about the US
sponsorship of such and was also in touch with Michael Ware of CNN
trying to get him to cover such as well (to no avail with him either).
Based on the following Huffingtonpost.com URL I can assume that both
Lara and Michael had other matters on their minds:



Lara Logan, Michael Ware Involved In Steamy Baghdad Love Triangle:



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/26/lara-logan-michael-ware-i_n_109331..html



Friend General Janis Karpinski of Abu Ghraib had told me that she was
in charge of guarding the MEK in Iraq and that Condi Rice was in the
loop with such as well.. The following article is most interesting as
well (note the Israeli mention):



Subverting Iran:



http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20070323&articleId=5165



Here is a tiny URL of the above one:



http://tinyurl.com/yop927





Richard Perle of the 'JINSA crowd' has supported the MEK as well:



http://gorillaintheroom.blogspot.com/2005/04/terrorist-group-to-hold-convention-in.html



Here is a tiny URL of the above the one:



http://tinyurl.com/5rfz5m





Here is the Reuters article (couldn't locate a URL yet though but will
post one if I can find one!):


U.S. escalating covert operations against Iran - report (Reuters) 2
hours, 40 minutes ago


U.S. congressional leaders agreed late last year to President George
W. Bush's funding request for a major escalation of covert operations
against Iran aimed at destabilizing its leadership, according to a
report in The New Yorker magazine published online on Sunday.

The article by reporter Seymour Hersh, from the magazine's July 7 and
14 issue, centers around a highly classified Presidential Finding
signed by Bush which by U.S. law must be made known to Democratic and
Republican House and Senate leaders and ranking members of the
intelligence committees.

"The Finding was focused on undermining Iran's nuclear ambitions and
trying to undermine the government through regime change," the article
cited a person familiar with its contents as saying, and involved
"working with opposition groups and passing money."

Hersh has written previously about possible administration plans to go
to war to stop Tehran from obtaining nuclear weapons, including an
April 2006 article in the New Yorker that suggested regime change in
Iran, whether by diplomatic or military means, was Bush's ultimate
goal.

Funding for the covert escalation, for which Bush requested up to $400
million, was approved by congressional leaders, according to the
article, citing current and former military, intelligence and
congressional sources.

Clandestine operations against Iran are not new. U.S. Special
Operations Forces have been conducting crossborder operations from
southern Iraq since last year, the article said.

These have included seizing members of Al Quds, the commando arm of
the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, and taking them to Iraq for
interrogation, and the pursuit of "high-value targets" in Bush's war
on terrorism, who may be captured or killed, according to the article.

But the scale and the scope of the operations in Iran, which include
the Central Intelligence Agency, have now been significantly expanded,
the article said, citing current and former officials.

Many of these activities are not specified in the new finding, and
some congressional leaders have had serious questions about their
nature, it said.

Among groups inside Iran benefiting from U.S. support is the
Jundallah, also known as the Iranian People's Resistance Movement,
according to former CIA officer Robert Baer. Council on Foreign
Relations analyst Vali Nasr described it to Hersh as a vicious
organization suspected of links to al Qaeda.

The article said U.S. support for the dissident groups could prompt a
violent crackdown by Iran, which could give the Bush administration a
reason to intervene.

None of the Democratic leaders in Congress would comment on the
finding, the article said. The White House, which has repeatedly
denied preparing for military action against Iran, and the CIA also
declined comment.

The United States is leading international efforts to rein in Iran's
suspected effort to develop nuclear weapons, although Washington
concedes Iran has the right to develop nuclear power for civilian
uses.



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June 28, 2008
America Is the Rogue Nation

by Charley Reese
One gets the impression that there are some people in Washington who
believe that Israel or the U.S. can bomb Iran's nuclear reactors, fly
home, and it will be mission complete.

It makes you wonder if perhaps there is a virus going around that is
gradually making people stupid. If we or Israel attack Iran, we will
have a new war on our hands. The Iranians are not going to shrug off
an attack and say, "You naughty boys, you."

Consider how much trouble Iraq has given us. Some 4,000 dead and
29,000 wounded, a half a trillion dollars in cost and still climbing,
and five years later, we cannot say that the country is pacified.

Iraq is a small country compared with Iran. Iran has about 70 million
people. Its western mountains border the Persian Gulf. In other words,
its missiles and guns look down on the U.S. ships below it. And it has
lots of missiles, from short-range to intermediate-range (around 2,200
kilometers).

More to the point, it has been equipped by Russia with the fastest
anti-ship missile on the planet. The SS-N-22 Sunburn can travel at
Mach 3 at high altitude and at Mach 2.2 at low altitude. That is
faster than anything in our arsenal.

Iran's conventional forces include an army of 540,000 men and 300,000
reserves, including 120,000 Iranian Guards especially trained in
unconventional warfare. It has more than 1,600 main battle tanks and
21,000 other armored combat vehicles. It has 3,200 artillery pieces,
three submarines, 59 surface warships and 10 amphibious ships.

It's been receiving help in arming itself from China, North Korea and
Russia. Unlike Iraq, Iran's forces have not been worn down with
bombing, wars and sanctions. It also has a new anti-aircraft defense
system from Russia that I've heard is pretty snazzy.

So, if you think we or Israel can attack Iran and not expect
retaliation, I'd have to say with regret that you are a moron. If you
think we could easily handle Iran in an all-out war, I'd have to
promote you to idiot.

Attacking Iran would be folly, but we seem to be living in the Age of
Folly. Morons and idiots took us into an unjustified war against Iraq
before we had finished the job in Afghanistan. Now we have troops tied
down in both countries.

For some years now, I've worried that we seem to be more and more like
Colonial England – arrogant, racist, overestimating our own capacity
and underestimating that of our enemies. As the fate of the British
Empire demonstrates, that is a fatal flaw.

The British never dreamed that the "little yellow people" could come
ashore by land and take Singapore from the rear or that they would
sink the pride of the British fleet, but they did both.

I suppose no one in Washington can imagine the Iranians sinking one of
our carriers in the Persian Gulf. How'd you like to be the president
who has to tell the American people that we've lost a carrier for the
first time since World War II?

Exactly how the Iranians will respond to an attack, I don't know, but
they will respond. In keeping with our present policy, our attack on
Iran would be illegal, since under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation
Treaty, Iran has the right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.

Who would have thought that we would become the rogue nation
committing acts of aggression around the globe?









Find this article at:
http://www.antiwar.com/reese/?articleid=13061






On Jun 29, 4:00 pm, Fafnir
<fr...@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
Quote:
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

On Jun 29, 7:00 pm, Fafnir
<fr...@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
Quote:
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/



what happened to war? I have been hearing about war in Iran for 7
years now, now its all covert
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

On Jun 29, 4:30 pm, steve <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 29, 7:00 pm, Fafnir

fr...@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/

what happened to war? I have been hearing about war in Iran for 7
years now, now its all covert

war mongers will be out of the white house soon, so will jesus fucker
warmongers
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 4:00 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

On Jun 29, 5:30 pm, steve <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Jun 29, 7:00 pm, Fafnir

fr...@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/

what happened to war? I have been hearing about war in Iran for 7
years now, now its all covert

We didn't really need the war in Iran until it became apparent that a
Republican will not likely win the White House in 2008 without one.

Sri Bodhi Prana
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica <bushhelpscorporations@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Quote:
On Jun 29, 4:30 pm, steve <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 29, 7:00 pm, Fafnir

fr...@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a
"significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S.
commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the
Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of
Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on
Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has
authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which
involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings
from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine
effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place
with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get
out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its
weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/

what happened to war? I have been hearing about war in Iran for 7
years now, now its all covert

war mongers will be out of the white house soon, so will jesus fucker
warmongers

Yeah, those damn warmongers:


WAR!! WAR!! DEMOCRATS AND WAAAAR!!!!
(the DRAFT included!!)

World War I - 1917 - 116,708 KIA - Woodrow Wilson - Democrat
World War II - 1941 - 408,306 KIA - Franklin D. Roosevelt - Democrat
Korean War - 1950 - 54,246 KIA - Harry S. Truman - Democrat
Vietnam War - 1965 - 58,159 KIA - Lyndon B. Johnson - Democrat

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6545/vietnamwarstats8zn.jpg

Maybe if the allies had done a preemptive attack on Germany when it
invaded Poland the war would have been over in 1939.

Here's a rousing "death to America" rally just before Ahmadinejad talks
about going nuclear:

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1385.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

nospam@noway.net (Ralph) wrote in
news:1ijb4dz.b69jm16frf8jN%nospam@noway.net:

Quote:
bushhelpscorporationsdestroyamerica <bushhelpscorporations@yahoo.com
wrote:

On Jun 29, 4:30 pm, steve <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 29, 7:00 pm, Fafnir

fr...@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a
"significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending
U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and
undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour
Hersh said Sunday. An Iranian flag flies outside the building
containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of
Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment
on
Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New
Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress
has
authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which
involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected
findings
from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine
effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in
place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they
get
out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its
weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/

what happened to war? I have been hearing about war in Iran for 7
years now, now its all covert

war mongers will be out of the white house soon, so will jesus fucker
warmongers

Yeah, those damn warmongers:


WAR!! WAR!! DEMOCRATS AND WAAAAR!!!!
(the DRAFT included!!)

World War I - 1917 - 116,708 KIA - Woodrow Wilson - Democrat

Yep, won that one.

Quote:
World War II - 1941 - 408,306 KIA - Franklin D. Roosevelt -

Yep, won that one.

Quote:
Democrat Korean War - 1950 - 54,246 KIA - Harry S. Truman -

Ike, republican, declares truce.

Quote:
Democrat Vietnam War - 1965 - 58,159 KIA - Lyndon B. Johnson -
Democrat

Nixon, republican, prolongs and loses that one.

Iraq, Bush, republican, longer than WWII and it was lost almost before it
started cuz he had no clue beyond dropping some bombs. Years of Civil War
and a destroyed country, homeland broke and in debt to competitors,
military on the ropes. Yep, repugs sure know how to handle things.

Quote:

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6545/vietnamwarstats8zn.jpg

Maybe if the allies had done a preemptive attack on Germany when it
invaded Poland the war would have been over in 1939.

Here's a rousing "death to America" rally just before Ahmadinejad
talks about going nuclear:

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1385.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 9:57 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

In article
<d754b20a24876cebc891ba0635ad060f@msgid.frell.theremailer.net>,
fritz@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net says...

Quote:
White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.


So outing a desk bound CIA employee is a terrible crime but revealing
active operations merits no protest from the left, typical.

--

"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

On 1 Jul, 05:57, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:

Quote:
So outing a desk bound CIA employee is a terrible crime but revealing
active operations merits no protest from the left, typical.

The difference is that Hersh didn't reveal the names of the people
involved in the operations, not did he break the law (unlike Scotter
Libby) you fucking thick moron.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:42 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

On 3 Jul, 07:54, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
Quote:
In article <bf60cbf7-e049-4abd-9d27-c394cdfbb995
@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, waynet...@yahoo.com says...

On 1 Jul, 05:57, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:

So outing a desk bound CIA employee is a terrible crime but revealing
active operations merits no protest from the left, typical.

The difference is that Hersh didn't reveal the names of the people
involved in the operations, not did he break the law (unlike Scotter
Libby) you fucking thick moron.

Neither did Mr Libby....

--

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"


"Libby was convicted of one count of obstruction, two counts of
perjury and one count of lying to the FBI about how he learned Plame’s
identity and whom he told. Prosecutors said he learned about Plame
from Cheney and others, discussed her name with reporters and, fearing
prosecution, made up a story to make those discussions seem
innocuous."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17479718/

Libby admitted that he discussed Plame's name with reporters, and if
he hadn't done anything wrong why was he prosecuted? Are you fucking
stupid or something? You are trying to dispute that which is
indisputable. Asshole.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

In article <bf60cbf7-e049-4abd-9d27-c394cdfbb995
@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, waynetv50@yahoo.com says...
Quote:
On 1 Jul, 05:57, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:

So outing a desk bound CIA employee is a terrible crime but revealing
active operations merits no protest from the left, typical.

The difference is that Hersh didn't reveal the names of the people
involved in the operations, not did he break the law (unlike Scotter
Libby) you fucking thick moron.

Neither did Mr Libby....



--

"Oh Norman, listen! The loons are calling!"
- Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

On Jun 29, 6:00 pm, Fafnir
<fr...@spamexpire-200806.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> wrote:
Quote:
 WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The Bush administration has launched a "significant escalation" of covert operations in Iran, sending U.S. commandos to spy on the country's nuclear facilities and undermine the Islamic republic's government, journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.
An Iranian flag flies outside the building containing the reactor of Bushehr nuclear power plant, south of Tehran.

White House, CIA and State Department officials declined comment on Hersh's report, which appears in this week's issue of The New Yorker.

Hersh told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that Congress has authorized up to $400 million to fund the secret campaign, which involves U.S. special operations troops and Iranian dissidents.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have rejected findings from U.S. intelligence agencies that Iran has halted a clandestine effort to build a nuclear bomb and "do not want to leave Iran in place with a nuclear program," Hersh said.

"They believe that their mission is to make sure that before they get out of office next year, either Iran is attacked or it stops its weapons program," Hersh said.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/06/29/us.iran/

Hard to say what they're up to, exactly. They might be preparing a
stunt to help the Republican Party's chances in November. Iran says
it's impossible to knock out their nuclear capability, it's too spread
out, and all underground.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

On 3 Jul, 17:28, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:

Quote:
Yet he was not convicted of giving her name to reporters.

So just because he was not convicted of giving her name to reporters,
that means it was morally acceptable for him to give her name to the
reporters, which he did indeed admit to the prosecutors?

Quote:
If you were secure in your argument you wouldn't be flying off with
insults now would you ?

Your original argument was absurd - you were attempting to draw a
(completely invalid) comparison i.e. Hersh revealing - without
mentioning specific names - CIA operations, to a case where someone
did actually reveal the name of someone who was involved in CIA
operations? Don't you think that's pretty dumb? The cases are
completely different therefore there is no ethical case to be made by
contrasting them. The fact that Libby was not prosecuted for
specifically revealing the names doesn't absolve him, either ethically
or legally, from said action.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

This is Darn Good Intelligence's brain on drugs:
Quote:
Libby admitted that he discussed Plame's name with reporters, and if
he hadn't done anything wrong why was he prosecuted? Are you fucking
stupid or something? You are trying to dispute that which is
indisputable. Asshole.

Here's how it works. Libby didn't actually do anything wrong, but by
twisting the poor guy up in court, they forced him into a corner where
he had to tell a couple of white lies. It's those lies they got him
for, not his actual behavior because he never committed a crime. The
model for this plan was created by the Republicans during the Starr
investigation and Bill Clinton's impeachment trial.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Report: U.S. 'preparing the battlefield' in Iran Reply with quote

In article <783d9e65-10e6-4f0c-a722-7983940a5a17
@k30g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, waynetv50@yahoo.com says...
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On 3 Jul, 07:54, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:
In article <bf60cbf7-e049-4abd-9d27-c394cdfbb995
@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, waynet...@yahoo.com says...

On 1 Jul, 05:57, tankfixer <paul.carr...@gmail.comm> wrote:

So outing a desk bound CIA employee is a terrible crime but revealing
active operations merits no protest from the left, typical.

The difference is that Hersh didn't reveal the names of the people
involved in the operations, not did he break the law (unlike Scotter
Libby) you fucking thick moron.

Neither did Mr Libby....

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   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"


"Libby was convicted of one count of obstruction, two counts of
perjury and one count of lying to the FBI about how he learned Plame?s
identity and whom he told. Prosecutors said he learned about Plame
from Cheney and others, discussed her name with reporters and, fearing
prosecution, made up a story to make those discussions seem
innocuous."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17479718/

Libby admitted that he discussed Plame's name with reporters, and if
he hadn't done anything wrong why was he prosecuted? Are you fucking
stupid or something? You are trying to dispute that which is
indisputable. Asshole.

Yet he was not convicted of giving her name to reporters.

If you were secure in your argument you wouldn't be flying off with
insults now would you ?


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